Just a shower thought. Obviously depends on the industry, but in terms of electronics I fee enthusiast grade (think gaming motherboards, for example) are better built than professional grade. Thoughts?

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    This is definitely not an internet myth. I was also in the Army (US) and our gear is worthless trash that only survives because people put huge amounts of work into learning its quirks. Example, if you spit in an M16 it jams. We had rows and rows of Humvees and Bradleys that had under 10k miles on them broken down. Abrams maintenance is something like 4 hours per hour of usage or something absurd like that. I think the only decent vehicle we still have in service is the FMTV, and their whole drivetrain is civilian stuff (CAT motor, Alison transmission, Dana axles etc).

    I’ll meet you in the middle and say they used to make stuff that was indestructible. Old GP tents, e-tools, and cots are beasts. But the military-industrial complex has fully kicked in now and just like everything else, military stuff is built to maximize profit.

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      When were you in? I got out right as a whole bunch of new gear and equipment was coming in. We were still issued the M16-A2. I wanted the A3 with that swoopy eye piece, but never had a chance to try one. The A2 was probably the best rifle I’ve ever fired, as long as you kept it clean (not always easy in the field). They were in the process of phasing out the UH-1H (Huey) when I left, in favor of the Blackhawk. My CO hated the Blackhawks and said he could put 10 Hueys in the air for the price of one Blackhawk.

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        09-15. I had an A2 and an A4. As an owner of AKs, I may have been spoiled but I found the M16s to be truly awful in terms of the cleaning maintenance. To be fair my sloppy ass A2 was more forgiving than the A4. The A4 was nice and accurate in garrison but downrange I talked my armorer into getting me my A2 back. The dust was too much for the A4 to handle.

        I was a Forward Observer but was put in an aviation unit for some reason so I spent a good amount of time RTOing adjacent to various helis. I can say without a doubt that we had helis down for maintenance every day, sometimes for multiple days at a time.

        This all circles back around to “the older the better” theme from my previous comment. Chinooks are an ancient platform but they’re super reliable and nearly never broke down outside of schedule. The M16A2 I had did have like 1/8" of play in it between upper and lower receiver but I did keep it working. God knows how many rounds went through that thing. But both of those things are what, like 'Nam era? All the truly durable stuff is old school. I’m just saying the new stuff is garbage.

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          That’s unfortunate to hear about the new stuff. I was really hoping to check out some of the new gear before my ETS, but it never happened. I guess I didn’t miss anything.

          You were 13F? Wild, man! I went to basic at Ft. Sill where you would have done your AIT. I was thinking about re-classing as 13F at one point, since y’all were harder than woodpecker lips. Did you go to Rucker when you got attached to an aviation unit?