• macrocarpa@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Anything that you can think of has already been thought of, modelled, and done by international actors who have more resources, technical capability and time than you, and have far fewer morals.

    You want a specific outcome to this election? So do Russia and China. They’re a lot better at this than you are and are orders of magnitude more invested in it.

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      I’m spitballing for a conversation. I don’t think I’m a pivotal strategic player.

      Edit: that said, I do think what you said is certainly worth mention, so I want to get ahead of my defensiveness.

      So to continue, do you think that such a tactic would be valuable for a state funded interest?

  • EvilBit@lemmy.world
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    I was just wondering about a general privacy goal of having an LLM bot just flood the zone with random data to try and confound advertising models, simulating clicks and likes/engagement across the spectrum just to wreck any meaningful data correlations.

    If you were aiming this concept at two specific targets, i.e., costing the Trump campaign money and screwing with their data, things could get really interesting. Like an open source bot that would coordinate bizarre trends across large cohorts of users to convince the data miners that, for example, a disproportionate number of voters in key regions are demographically or behaviorally skewed.

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      3 months ago

      Take a look at this browser extension: https://adnauseam.io/

      As online advertising becomes ever more ubiquitous and unsanctioned, AdNauseam works to complete the cycle by automating ad clicks universally and blindly on behalf of its users. Built atop uBlock Origin, AdNauseam quietly clicks on every blocked ad, registering a visit on ad networks’ databases. As the collected data gathered shows an omnivorous click-stream, user tracking, targeting and surveillance become futile.

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        3 months ago

        AdNauseam quietly clicks on every blocked ad, registering a visit on ad networks’ databases

        Do those clicks appear to be coming from me, or from some random fake identity?

        False floods of data or not, there are some things I’d rather not have any identifiable contact with at all.

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            3 months ago

            It should atleast poison any data they gather about you right? Since you’re not ever going to realistically click on any of these ads, it would now look like anything and everything interests you

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              it would now look like anything and everything interests you

              That could get you on some interesting lists.

              Personally, I’d rather not have any database think I was interested in certain topics, no matter how false that data is.

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      Personally, I’d just limit it to feeding them data that a large undecided segment believes a few provably false outlandish things, so that they publicly endorse said things when they could be spending time doing something socially destructive.

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        3 months ago

        I mean wouldn’t it be crazy, to get something like people are eating cats and dogs publicly said.

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        Can we get the politicians to shift from illegal aliens to Sasquatch? Build a wall across Washington state and make Canada pay for it?

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    3 months ago

    I read once that a good thing to do was to physically mail a low denomination check to the campaign. All because the work and effort to record and deposit the funds was so labor intensive by an actual person.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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      You’ll need to mail thousands of them for it to matter. The labor and expense for you to do that is greater than the labor and expense for them. Plus, I feel like they’d probably just throw the checks away if they are like a penny, or something stupid low.

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      Bruh. “They go low, we go high” gave us fucking Trump. That strategy didn’t work. We are not trying it again in a nearly identical context.

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        And if you start a brigading campaign against them, it’ll just be used to raise their platform.

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              Because not showing up to a propaganda war is a serious tactical loss that can and does have strategic implications on the outcome of the election.

              We are fighting the fucking fascists, dude. No quarter can or should be given. We are not polite to fascists. We do not respect fascists. We do not offer aid to fascists. We harm them whenever and wherever we reasonably can, because they’re fucking doing that to the rest of us as a matter of their ideology. We do not extend an assumption of good faith. We punch them in the face and kick them when they’re down.

              The only - and I do mean ONLY - exception is when a fascist says “I want to get out, I don’t want to be a fascist any more”. Help those people. They are trying to escape. They are returning to sanity. The rest MUST be regarded as a lost cause, because that’s the ideology they’re supporting.

              This is not a point I will ever compromise on.

              If this comment gets me a ban for inciting violence, I’m ok with that. I’ll ride it out. But YOU: do not come here and sympathy troll for fascists. That is not going to fucking fly.

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                Haha. Sympathy troll? I hope you don’t get banned because you’re entertaining. I guess saying not to do the same thing shitty people do and to rise above it is me giving them sympathy? You got some wires crossed. You’re what I consider a left radical. And don’t misunderstand. I’m a left-leaning libertarian. We are one of the weirdest groups on the left. Like expecting personal freedoms in a social government. I get it’s odd, but you are saying that the only way to win is to troll the trolls. What does that accomplish besides vilifying us further down the road instead of continuing to let Trump’s GOP continue to implode.

                And if people do decide that they feel their side is wrong and switch to the other side, it is fine. However (through experience), you are the only person I’ve interacted with who has said that. So with all evidence that I have seen you are minority in that belief. Everyone else has absolute condemnation in their mind