• vinylshrapnel@lemmynsfw.com
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    7 months ago

    Famous libertarian Friedrich Hayek supported universal basic income. As a libertarian myself, I always ask myself: “Will this make people more free?” If the answer is yes, then I support it because that’s what true libertarianism is. In the case of UBI and universal healthcare, both of those would unequivocally make people more free. People will be more free to choose a profession they like rather than one that merely keeps a roof over their heads. America already has a form of limited universal healthcare. It just happens to be restricted to the military and maybe some other government servants. Those members don’t have to worry about their healthcare and it allows them to focus their attention on more important matters, as their healthcare needs are met. Clearly the government has seen that universal healthcare is beneficial.

    The sovereign citizens and the right wingers masquerading as Libertarians have given the ideology a bad name.

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      7 months ago

      I recently got out of the military and it’s been a complete shock how bad the private healthcare system is. So much red tape, so many charges, so much money being spent on both ends: to the insurance company, again to the insurance company (copays), and then to the provider when the insurance company won’t cover things.

      With Tricare? “Hey doc, I need this med for my migraines.” “Alright, here you go.” No charge.

      The American health system is a complete scam keeping people under the boot of their employers and of the for-profit insurance companies.

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      In the case of UBI and universal healthcare, both of those would unequivocally make people more free.

      It is important to note that, specifically, they are examples of positive liberty.

      The sovereign citizens and the right wingers masquerading as Libertarians have given the ideology a bad name.

      I agree.

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      7 months ago

      If anarchists are often misunderstood I’d imagine libertarians even more so. Both philosophies advocate for the lack of a state, splitting between preference towards the community/collective vs individual, and are often misinterpreted to mean every thing the state does or should provide today can’t exist without it.

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        7 months ago

        [Libertarianism] advocate[s] for the lack of a state

        No it doesn’t. Anarchism advocates for the abolition of the state, libertarianism advocates for minarchy — the minimization of the state.

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      7 months ago

      Famous libertarian Friedrich Hayek supported universal basic income

      That’s a lie people love to repeat. Hayek was in favor of helping people who needed help, he explicitly was against money for freeloaders.