A human rights monitor documented the sniping of at least 13 children in and around Shifa Hospital, all between the ages of 4 and 16.

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    9 months ago

    That’s what war looks like. It’s disgusting. All of them are and always gruesome towards innocent.

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      9 months ago

      This is not war. It’s just mass murder. If this was war, the conservatives would be targeting at least some combatants. The IDF intentionally targets civilians and aid workers. This is not what war is. This is what genocide is.

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        It was declared as war, it is being fought as war. It’s war. Technically in every aspect. The fact they are stronger means nothing. How do you know IDF is intentionally targeting civilians and then letting other 2 million of them go is a mystery to me but it’s not genocide because it’s not by definition “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”, because had that been the case, there would be no Gaza left, there would be no aid, there would be no humanitarian corridor.

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          Good thing there is no war in Ukraine, right? Your “logic” doesn’t make any sense.

          We know they are intentionally targetting civillians because of all the incidents that happen. Yaknow, for decades actually. The kneecappings, the shooting at protesters, the shooting at medics who provide emergency care. It’s not up to debate - it is what they do and have always done.

          Also your definition of genocide is shit - since it also covers forced displacement.

          Also, there is no aid. What gets in is a fraction of a fraction of what’s needed. Who gives a shit that bottles of water, 20000 of them came in, when all that does is at best serve a single day for 20k people out of 2 million? Everything gets searched and often denied. There are countless aid trucks waiting on the other side of the border. Even what US was dropping was a tiny part of the need. Compared to the Berlin airlift, all this is, is showing idiots “look we give aid everything is fine”.

          What humanitarian corridor too? The one where people get shot at with artillery?

          You are either a troll, or a pelican that swallows every propaganda piece someone throws at you.

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              Buddy, I literally have coworkers in Gaza that I am in constant contact with. I know a doctor that was in Al Shifa when the last assaults happened when it was still operating. I know people who were shot by Israelis. I know people who lost their entire family to a bomb that levelled a house right across the street from their house. You implying that “an inflated opinion of myself” makes all of this be false simply because you are the “enlightened one” is just sickening.

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                The other guy won because all you could do was say he was gobbling propaganda. He actually had definitions and reasons.

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                  I don’t care about you, your opinion, or the other guy and his opinion. Life isn’t a popularity contest. I know what’s happening in Gaza and I’ll happily correct any dumbo that watched too much TV and formed their opinion that way.

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                    I thought it was just bots on reddit saying this Hasbara pro-IDF Nazi-esque genocide justification but there are actually people everywhere thinking like this. We truly live in dark times. IDF are engineering something worse than fuckin Leningrad in WW2, and there are soooo many people openly defending it, I can’t believe people can be so simultaneously heartless and brainless just KILL KILL KILL. It’s like a nightmare I can’t wake up from.

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          Do you really believe the IDF could so blatantly destroy all of Palestine without anyone noticing? The Israeli state would crumble without western support, they have to maintain plausible deniability. But their own policies state they don’t recognize Palestine.

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            Dude that’s literally what’s happening right now… they are trying to destroy all of palestine, we all have noticed, and it is crumbling… they are maintaining deniability even through bold-faced examples to the contrary… why you are saying is literally happening

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              You are right, I have been a little out of the loop on recent international reactions, I was surprised to read a recent UN report outlining the atrocities so effectively. Last I heard they are still allowing arms sales from the US though which is what I meant more specifically

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          It’s at least ethnic cleansing, as you can see Israeli politicians making conferences supporting resetting Gaza, taking West Bank (land seizures in West Bank is on a 30 year high), Canadian synagogues selling property in stolen land in West Bank, see vídeos of Israelis asking to carpet bomb Gaza, etc.

          Even Ben Gurion and people at the time said they would accept an Israeli state as a base to take off the whole of Palestine