• Wanderer@lemm.ee
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    Could happen multiple ways. Unpopular opinion on Lemmy who like to bury their head in the sand.

    Western civilation is going to die from immigration. Places like the UK the largest cities are less than 50% white British. It’s worse the younger down the age groups you get.

    There is also the issue of population growth. I’m not sure our best and brightest are having the most kids anywhere in the world really yet world population increases.

    The trajectory we are on is that we are doomed or maybe a country like China will make some difficult decisions that western countries won’t and that will benefit them long term.

    Best case scenario is AI gets to the point it can save us from ourselves. Which is the scariest thing of all.

    Within the next 100 years maybe 200. The west will continue to weaken from multiple directions. The third world will continue to increase population and overuse their resources and miss manage the economy. Global warming will throw petrol onto the fire and mass immigration will happen. Some big war is also going to kick off and that will be the collapse of society (but I don’t think so severe a new one can’t be built). That will be the end of the West being the greatest place to live.

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      7 months ago

      What an astounding gathering of terrible takes.

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        Seeing as this is a loose and free question on society I feel like I have hit some pretty key points that are already happening. Which of these isn’t true?

        Immigration changing society

        Genetics and multigenerational values.

        China doing things no other country will e.g. one child policy.

        Global warming and destruction of the environment.

        War.

        AI having the possibility of being great or terrible.

        Societies having limited lifespans. If anything this is the most likely to be inaccurate because societies can collapse a lot quicker

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          Race and society aren’t the same thing, a society doesn’t collapse just because the makeup of races shifts one way or the other. The best and brightest procreating thing (eugenics light) is also not new at all.

          You’re not 100% wrong in all aspects of your answer or anything but your weird vaguely racists takes don’t make sense and seem a bit shitty

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            If immigrants come over and have different views then society becomes different.

            I’ve lived in places with high immigrant populations and the city is entirely different. You can’t expect people to come over from an entirely different culture, who don’t integrate and then expect everything to be the same.

            Also I didn’t pretend to have any new genius idea. I wasn’t really talking about eugenics I was talking about collapse.

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      7 months ago

      Lmao…

      How is Western civilization going to die from immigration? Just because it changes colour doesn’t mean it’s getting "destroyed ", lmao

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        If the values that make up that society change then yes, that’s absolutely the end of one and the beginning of another.

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          Values are always changing. Immigration isn’t why we accept people of other races as equals. It’s not why we accept homosexual relationships. It’s not why we accept the rights of transgendered people.

          Immigration has nothing to do with any of that, and none of that means that society is collapsing, lol

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      China made the difficult decision to do one child per family, which was a decision a western society would never make. It turned out horribly for China. Turns out there’s a reason western cultures don’t make “the hard decisions” like that.

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        Time will tell.

        India and places like that could have benefitted from a one child policy.

        But that’s not my point. My point was most countries avoid the difficult choices.

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          India and places like that could have benefitted from a one child policy.

          Those “benefits” come at the cost of a whole lot of dead baby girls though. Does that sound like a good trade to you?

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          Exactly. I know a bona fide Neo Nazi. He said he wanted to visit The Eagle’s Nest. I said I wanted to visit the bunker where Hitler killed Hitler. He didn’t like that

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            I hope he’s able to make the trip and the experience inspires him to follow in his idol’s goose-steps. Just that last bit though, make it a speedrun.

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      North America was a beautiful place. Then the white man showed up. Been downhill ever since. So, yeah, immigration is a problem. Care to fix it?

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        I think that’s a perfect example of a society falling due to immigration. Thanks for helping my point.