Posted this on shower thoughts but Ig here is more appropriate, I feel like lemmy is not the place I remember it being last year.
I really liked the atmosphere of civil arguments and understanding here, which is the reason I started posting actively as well, even though I have always been a lurker, but I feel like I have stopped feeling happy but instead more and more agitated when browsing, I remember people having civil discussions and willing to listen to others, content was low, but what each post produced was really high quality, nowadays though I rarely feel like it
People here have now started acting like as if they are some sort of god gifted individuals who are right in every regard, they love to throw the word ‘propaganda’ around but fail to acknowledge they could be a victim of it as well, I remember we could still have discussions about controversial topics without things getting ugly, nowadays it is not like that, comments get weirdly personal and sometimes even turn into insults and even phobic, people are hell-bent that they are right on certain issues, and never consider any other opinion or that something might be more nuanced than they think
I can be a victim of propaganda too, but what I really loved is that you were able to have healthy discussions and put forward your opinions, which meant you were much more aware of everybody elses opinion and their reasoning, which meant you could see things with different perspectives, nowadays though it is very different, you say something slightly controversial and be prepared for the hate comments (remember the mildy infuriating post? The guy ended up deleting it)
I have learned a lot from lemmy, and I have had wonderful conversations with some of you but I feel like the days where we all were collectively trying to build a good, happy and accepting community are gone, I won’t be surprised if any redditor looked us and thought we are a group of really closed minded people who wont accept anything that is not the common sentiment here
I was a little kid when reddit was gaining traction, so I have no Idea what sort of thing happened, maybe it was similar to this? I would really like if some early reddit adopters who also came here add their comments
One of my favorite moments I remember here is when there was some sort of meme about Ramadan, I clicked hesitantly thinking it’s gonna be a war zone, but I was surprised to see people having fun discussing how people deal with fasting where the sun never sets for months, that feeling was beautiful, I guarantee it will be a different situation now
It was in an earlier post about taliban publically executing a murderer, I said that I don’t know the exact circumstance but I can definitely see reason why you might do something like this, regardless whether it’s right or wrong, I find it hilarious that this person disagrees with me but also think I don’t deserve any respect because I hold an opinion contrary to him, and thinks the way to change it is calling me names
A lot of people actually were providing pretty good arguments but I don’t really want to participate anymore
Please provide evidence of a single name you were called in this thread.
Just one.
Otherwise I think I see the problem.
‘Butthurt’, I agree it’s not name calling, but it’s not any better
So… You can accept people publically executing people, but people calling you names is a step too far? Am I understanding that right?
I am saying that people who think that people who don’t agree with them don’t deserve respect should not say that executing murderers and rapists is bad, I’d rather hear arguments of people which have a higher moral standing and provide arguments rather than descending straight to insults
So, that’s a yes, then. You seem to think that defending public execution gives you a higher moral standing than someone calling you names.
That’s just my opinion, if the guy had said ‘I dont agree, here are the reasons:’ he would have my respect, I don’t remember tho claiming anywhere I am absolutely correct 100% or me calling others butthurt because they disagreed with me, nor do I remember executing anyone
Could you link to the specific comment from the other thread that upset you so much?
It is not one particular comment that has upset me, its the degradation of the quality of discussions here, none from that specific thread, it was a controversial topic and I know I am putting my hand in fire, the comment that ‘upset’ me in the context you are asking is the one where the guy calls me butthurt for disagreeing with his opinion, it doesn’t upset me as much as it infuriates me, it’s not relevant to the question, it’s dumb and childish, and most of all it’s not how you make your point, but tbh I am glad it is there, it is the perfect summary of my whole rant above
This is not in the context they were asking though, this happened as a response to your rant.
What some of us would want to have is documented examples of what caused you to write this post.
In a comment you complained about nobody having “shared their experience in a meaningful way”, but you haven’t shared anything concrete either.
In the post you said:
Yet to me things do not seem to have gotten ugly when you expressed a very controversial opinion in the “taliban” post. This is were concrete examples would help understanding your point.
Some users did disrepect you about this issue in this post, and I definitely do not support that ! In the end, you are a teen getting bullied (probably by adults) for having an opinion, and this is wrong no matter how bad the opinion is.
Well, my opinion is that, since you defend violent public executions but condemn ridicule of yourself, your respect is worthless. And my opinion is that, since you wrote a lengthy condemnation of the entire website because people ridiculed you one time, you are acting very much like a butthurt individual would.
I know that’s just my opinion, but I also gave reasons.
Yeahh, letss go hating everyone we disagreee with woohoo, in all seriousness whatever, I don’t give a fuck what you think of me
So if a lot of people were providing good arguments, why not just ignore the haters, and focus on the debaters?
I made this post because the ‘haters’ have slowly been rising (this post itself makes a pretty good case), ofc I wasn’t taking them seriously there, but they certainly wrecked the mood here