Sovereign citizens believe that there is a difference between JOHN Q. PUBLIC and John Q. Public. Like your name in all caps is a “corporation” that the US government controls, which has money that you can access with the right combination of magic words. It’s very cargo cult.
Literally exactly what it is. The “coupon” they refer to is the little payment remittance slip on the bottom of bills, they think if they sign it and send it back without money that it pays their debt. It’s WILD.
The state has the monopoly on violence. To assert your sovereignty over the state you need to make that monopoly your own. Walk into a police station with a gun and wave it around. You will promptly be freed from the tyranny of the law!
(Note: this only works in the USA because of the laws, if you try this in Europe we won’t know what to do and you might end up with mental health support and therapy instead of sovereignty.)
Please no. I work in a city hall. I don’t need that in my life. We already had a guy hit an artery while shooting up in the bathroom and spray blood everywhere, and someone plugged up one of the sinks on a Friday night and flooded the lower level over the weekend, and they had to do a cleanup because there were traces of meth all over like every city building except the PD from people smoking it in the bathrooms, and I really cannot take one more bathroom-related incident.
I actually don’t know and it makes me sad. He took off but if he didn’t get medical care pretty quick, I’m not sure what his odds are. We’re not too far from an ER so I hope he made it.
Unlike the disgust I feel when I learned someone used to give tourists incorrect directions on purpose — like who does that?! — the feelings I have for those who mislead SOVEREIgN CITIZENs is love and admiration. Lemme pour some gasoline on your fire, friend.
I’m telling them that they have to use a particular set of US postage stamps on their nutjob documents, that it’s the seal of admiralty of alloidial titles or some such garbage, and I’m starting to see them do it and it’s so funny.
Be chaotic good and trick them into doing good things. “The government adds $10k to your child’s internal treasury account when they’re assigned a SSN or vaccinated.” “Picking up trash off the sidewalk every day gives you ownership by common law.”
I’m trying to convince them to give the post office money by buying a particular set of stamps, saying that using those stamps is the seal of the great councillor of alloidial titles, and is the only way to get their nutjob documents approved.
This sounds like some weird cargo cult-esque garbage. Send magic letter = bill disappear.
Sovereign citizens believe that there is a difference between JOHN Q. PUBLIC and John Q. Public. Like your name in all caps is a “corporation” that the US government controls, which has money that you can access with the right combination of magic words. It’s very cargo cult.
I’m sure my dad still does that. Banks pay him ridiculous sums of money to maintain their COBOL systems.
I’ve not heard the phrase “cargo cult”. What does that mean?
This is a pretty good summation of what cargo cults are and how they came to be IMO.
That is quite a different level of ignorance.
-Arthur C. Clark
Literally exactly what it is. The “coupon” they refer to is the little payment remittance slip on the bottom of bills, they think if they sign it and send it back without money that it pays their debt. It’s WILD.
Somebody go tell them that if they take a shit in the middle of city hall, they become mayor.
How about…
(Note: this only works in the USA because of the laws, if you try this in Europe we won’t know what to do and you might end up with mental health support and therapy instead of sovereignty.)
Think it would work? 😈
My only fear is that they are learning to organize.
Please no. I work in a city hall. I don’t need that in my life. We already had a guy hit an artery while shooting up in the bathroom and spray blood everywhere, and someone plugged up one of the sinks on a Friday night and flooded the lower level over the weekend, and they had to do a cleanup because there were traces of meth all over like every city building except the PD from people smoking it in the bathrooms, and I really cannot take one more bathroom-related incident.
Did the guy survive and is he now the new mayor?
I actually don’t know and it makes me sad. He took off but if he didn’t get medical care pretty quick, I’m not sure what his odds are. We’re not too far from an ER so I hope he made it.
Do you have a link to more of this? One serving isn’t enough. What FB group is this?
The name is on the post but I’m in lots of their dumbass groups. I love to give them bogus advice.
Unlike the disgust I feel when I learned someone used to give tourists incorrect directions on purpose — like who does that?! — the feelings I have for those who mislead SOVEREIgN CITIZENs is love and admiration. Lemme pour some gasoline on your fire, friend.
I’m telling them that they have to use a particular set of US postage stamps on their nutjob documents, that it’s the seal of admiralty of alloidial titles or some such garbage, and I’m starting to see them do it and it’s so funny.
Oh ok, I thought that was a username. Clearly I haven’t been on FB in a while.
edit: I just realized you blanked out the actual username. I’m slow today.
I blanked out the person but not the group. I like giving them bogus advice on that group.
Be chaotic good and trick them into doing good things. “The government adds $10k to your child’s internal treasury account when they’re assigned a SSN or vaccinated.” “Picking up trash off the sidewalk every day gives you ownership by common law.”
I’m trying to convince them to give the post office money by buying a particular set of stamps, saying that using those stamps is the seal of the great councillor of alloidial titles, and is the only way to get their nutjob documents approved.