I love me some Stratigo.

Also, that whole thing is nonsense of the highest order.

maybe stop comparing race and gender then.

Isn’t the entire premise of the post that someone is seeing parallels here, and would like to understand why the similarities are not meaningful? As I said, I agree that transracial people are being silly, but I haven’t seen an argument here that can’t be used against transgender people.

trans women only pass because we’re women.

But there are plenty of transwomen who don’t “pass” despite being women. But they should still be treated as women. Hell, there have been at least a few reports of ciswomen who couldn’t pass as women, at least to sufficiently assholish observers. On that basis, I don’t think we can use “passing” as a factor to determine people’s identity.

I’m advised that there is no scientific or genetic basis for race. I’m a little unclear on how “ethnicity” is different from “race.”

All of them seem to be social constructs.

So, as a white person, I cannot pass as black, so I can never expect people to treat me like I’m black?

Don’t get me wrong, I think the idea is silly, but all the arguments I’ve seen in this thread are a word-swap away from being a bad argument against transgender people.

What’s the essential difference?

Problem is that “race” isn’t just cultural. How you will be treated definitely depends on how other people perceive your “race” and subsequently it will shape your life reality

But surely how you will be treated definitely depends on how other people perceive your “gender” and subsequently it will shape your life reality?

Everything you described up there sounds exactly like “cultural.”

I thought I was wrong, once. But I was mistaken.

The cultural relationship with time is more important than its absolute measurement.

This was the statement at the top of this discussion. It values the local concept of what time should be over an objective measurement of what time is.

The proposed change wouldn’t cause much of a problem. But the idea under the statement I quoted would.

that is such a small edge case that it’s not necessary to talk about them

Did you manage to overlook this point?

In general, stay out of the ducking way.

I mean we as a group. Some of us will, but they will be decried by the rest of us. Too much, too far, too soon.

If we could all get on the same page, that would be one thing. But it’s like unions, isn’t it? Once man stopping work is just quitting. The whole factory stopping work is industrial action.

kind of my point. Trains need accurately measured time in order to run properly.

Tell that to the trains.

Your last point is wrong, at least as you have stated it. Evaporation time is based on surface area, and the required power is based on volume, but you expressed the amount of water as a length.

Still, metric is way better.

I don’t think we have the stomach to pull that off.

I’d love to be wrong, though.

Everybody isn’t going to lose. All of us will, but the rich assholes are gonna win.

This sort of thing is supposed to discourage the bots that reddit is plagued with.

Was there ever any doubt?

I myself like to argue things just to argue them. It’s a good way to find out if I’m right, or to learn thing I didn’t know, and correct my misunderstandings.

But I know that’s not everyone’s idea of a good time.

I seem to recall reading that a German scientist did the experiment that lead directly to the atom bomb before we did our in the US, but that he misinterpreted the results, and tossed the whole line of research.

You could always just say “whoops, I read the question wrong,” particularly since the rest of your answer was right.