We undoubtedly live in pretty crappy version of cyberpunk. For already quite some time. Authoritarianism and techno-feudalism are on the rise. Cristo-fascism is blooming. Rights and freedoms are being taken from us every single day. Tech is transformed purely into means of data extraction, surveillance and control. However there does not seem to be any counter-culture forming, no music or art genres with strong messages rising up against all of this. Where is the punk of today?

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    You know, I thought it was gone, spent my youth watching bands in garages and stuff, didn’t hear much about that anymore, community radio station still around.

    But then my high schooler asked me to take her to a show in a church. A what? But we went and oh my goodness underground music is absolutely still around. There was a mosh pit, I wished I’d brought earplugs, way too loud for the space but there was a punk band, a speed metal band, and the band she went to see was the headliner - all local bands. It is still there, you just aren’t part of that world anymore.

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      Hell yeah. There’s an unassuming restaurant in my town that hosts local all-ages punk and metal shows after the kitchen closes. The underground scene is alive and well. I’m looking forward to having your experience myself as my kids grow up.

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      That sounds like The Trunk Space! Though, I think they lost their church spot last year. I think TV Girl and AJJ were my favorite shows there. They also held a Desert Trash festival years ago.

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    Plenty of punk and punk adjacent music still around, lots of local shows still occur if you know where to look. I’m in the U.S. but can say for sure this stuff is still happening here and other countries too.

    Bob Vylan and Kneecap were banned from the U.S. earlier this year and Zionists are still going around trying to get their shows cancelled just for speaking out on Palestine.

    In general Zionists seem to be easily triggered, last year while on their tour playing a show in New Jersey Apes of the State had a big FREE PALESTINE banner at their shows and some guy at the venue flipped out and tried to take it down.

    On tour last month in the U.S. Bad Cop/Bad Cop was selling FUCK ICE shirts while the other band on tour with them (The Iron Roses) were speaking out on LGBTQ issues and the general fucked state the U.S. is in right now.

    Later this weekend Leftover Crack is playing a show in Brooklyn, I’m sure they’ll have plenty to say on the current state of things.

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      I know I could search for this online, but word of mouth is so often superior and it also feels like kinda the point of lemmy…but got any recs for some punk or punk adjacent bands/albums? Particularly recent stuff or old if it holds up to the current climate. I got into RATM around this time last year and nothing else has come close to scratching the itch of “maaaan fuck this shit.”

      (In addition to the stuff mentioned in your original comment, of course!)

      Edit: seems like this thread is building a bit of a list on its own, actually!!

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    Here are 5 current day punk bands that I like. All are available on bandcamp.

    • The Upfucks
    • False Flag
    • Generacion Suicida
    • Total Massacre
    • Hans Gruber and the Die Hards.
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    The chats amyl and the sniffers The viagra boys (more kind of 80s dance punk revival)

    Music has been captured by business now more than ever. I think you’ll be be very hard pushed to find anyone who can make a living from music that would meet everyone’s definition of a strong message etc. now. So, mines a lot less that and just more punk now.

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    subversive punk is still around. It’s still politically leftist. Jeff Rosenstock and his fans are pretty anarchist in ethos. Go to one of his shows, you’ll find a whole lot of messaging about solidarity, mutual aid, building better world, fuck the police, etc. His lyrics aren’t always about politics but they have an anti authoritarian edge.

    There’s Infinity Knives x Brian Ennals who are mixing punk and hip hop in a very in your face political way and theyre GREAT.

    Viagra boys are a pop punk who satirize the alt-right, especially in their album Cave World.

    Mount Eerie is a noisy folk band that dabbles in some punk aesthetic – their most recent albums contains themes of decolonization and anti-war.

    Honningbarna just came out with an amazing record called Soft Spot that has some leftist political themes, but not as overt as the others. Amazing sound though. Maybe more Hardcore than punk.

    There is no centralized counter culture because the media landscape is so different now. There’s no radio to all listen to together. Communities are pretty isolated online. There are advantages and disadvantages. At the very least, decentralization of the counter culture prevents it from ever being squashed completely. On the other hand, decentralization makes it harder for people to see, and cause them to lose hope and feel alone. But as another said, you’re here, aren’t you?

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      I saw Jeff & Pup last month. Was such a blast to party with punks of all ages at that show. Even bought myself a nice Death Rosenstock shirt (yes, death), that has a nice “Fuck ICE” message on it.

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    What is Lemmy to you but an anti-authoritarian counter movement to technocracy and surveillance culture? I’d say FOSS is pretty punk as well in this regard

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    First, punk is where it’s always been: in the streets, the boroughs, in the young people that are discovering how trashy this world and society are… I’ve been out of the scene for quite a while, but from time to time I do still go to some concert or other events.

    Second, Edelweiss is not anti authoritarian, or anti right wing at all, even if it’s meant as a ‘fuck you’ to the nazis. It’s a nationalist song sung by a member of the Austrian military. For context, the Austrian right was divided on this matter, with the Austrian fascist party being staunchly against the Anschluss. Julie Andrews rocks, though.

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    Youre here aren’t you? Why do you think theyre called subcultures? Punk/punk idealogy was never mainstream until it was tamed, domesticated, and commercialized decades later

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      I’d say the Clash were simultaneously highly mainstream and true to the spirit of punk. Dead Kennedys as well, albeit slightly less mainstream.

      Honestly I’d say there’s a lot of punk bands that enjoyed something close to mainstream success without being sellouts.

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        It tried to. Luckily it didn’t like the taste and spit it back out. I think they called it Emo.

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    rising up against all of this

    Does Rise Against count?

    I am not a good gatekeeper of “mainstream” or “sellout” etc but this feels like a hostile thread so I guess criticism is incoming.

    I feel like the entirety of RA’s discography fits this theme perfectly. The songwriting is part of why I can’t get enough.

    (I can’t speak for their recent Ricochet album - the sound quality is poor and lots of fans hate it; we hope we get a rerecording some day. Set aside Ricochet and I feel like you can’t go wrong with anything else of theirs.)

    Trying to list deeper cuts that might be good hooks:

    Album / Song:

    The Black Market / Bridges
    The Black Market / People Live Here
    Endgame / Disparity by Design
    Endgame / Midnight Hands
    Endgame / A Gentleman’s Coup
    Nowhere Generation / The Numbers
    Nowhere Generation / Sudden Urge
    EP Nowhere Generation II / Holding Patterns
    Wolves / Welcome to the Breakdown
    Appeal to Reason / Entertainment
    EP / Megaphone

    And you can’t go wrong with the back to back tracks “Prayer of the Refugee” followed by “Drones” from the album The Sufferer and the Witness.

    Even older albums have good stuff but I didn’t list them since idk if you’d call them “modern”. Tip the Scales + Give It All are good tracks.

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      Rise Against started out as a Fat Wreck Chords group, and their sound and message hasn’t gone soft since they signed to a major.

      And yeah, I’d put this pretty squarely in the punk rock category.

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    I have some hope we’ll see it in young progressive “traditional country” artists.

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    Jesse Welles would be the modern cycle.

    Distorted guitars carried the torch from the protest songs of the 70s through punk and peaked with prog metal in the late 00s. We’re snapping straight back to the 70s protest songs and doing it all over again.

    Venezuela slapped.

    Join Ice

    The List

    War isn’t Murder the hit that got him known

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      I’d say he’s imitating the 60s more than the 70s, but he writes some good tunes nevertheless. :)

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    Not helpful for the question but it made me remember one book I read on Buhhism that was written by a punk artist that used to be around Ohio? Crap can’t recall the place think Akron was a city spot. Seemed like a fairly small artist from whati recall of the stories.

    It’s fun to see where punk comes up is all, was never my particular taste for sound (or scene really) but I think their messge is awesome. Think all systems need their message reflected in controversial art, may not agree with their sound but so far a lot of messages have sounded better than the status quo. And sometimes seeing what the system brings shows what may be needed for change.

    It’d be nice one day if punk couldn’t have the same message cause we did better for ourselves as society.