Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is suing Johnson and Johnson, accusing the pharmaceutical company of failing to warn consumers about the risk of taking Tylenol while pregnant.
This lawsuit, the first of its kind from a state government, comes a month after President Donald Trump and U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. announced updated guidance discouraging pregnant women from taking acetaminophen, citing it as a possible cause of autism. The announcement set off a wave of controversy in the health care community, and confusion among pregnant women unsure how they should manage fever and pain during pregnancy.
I’m not a lawyer but shouldn’t J&J be suing the Federal Government for making utterly unsubstantiated claims in an official announcement?
I really am baffled that they have not sued.
I believe it’s called slander?
I think they’re waiting for the damages to really rack up. Then they can sue the taxpayer for billions and nobody can stop them.
It is hard to believe this is not an onion article. “We just made this up and now we are suing you for not warning people about the shit we just made up”.
I can’t wait for all these bullshit cases to get in front of judges. Some of them already have, and are getting tossed. The media should be covering it much heavier.
The media is fully captured by hard right idealogues.
Are fucking insane? How on earth do they expect to actually win this lawsuit?
They don’t. It’s part flood the zone, part pandering to certain voters. Look what we do for you! A blue state wouldn’t fight for your health like this!
Nothing will come of it but it’s a positive distraction from the extraction of wealth that is currently happening.
As someone on the outside looking in, it is ABSOLUTELY INSANE that this still needs to be explained to people.
It’s also a very obvious distraction from
THE EPSTEIN FILES
Well maybe something will come from it, it might inspire laws that make it harder to sue pharma.
People have tried in the past and each time it got thrown out because the judges ruled they were full of shit. As recently as 2023, even, from Reuters:
Cote, in a 148-page ruling, found that none of the five expert witnesses proposed by the plaintiffs had offered a sound scientific methodology to support their opinion that Tylenol’s active ingredient, acetaminophen, could cause autism spectrum disorder (ASD) and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
“Instead, the unstructured approach adopted by the plaintiffs’ experts permitted cherry-picking, allowed a results-driven analysis, and obscured the complexities, inconsistencies, and weaknesses in the underlying data,” she wrote.
They’re trying to sue J&J, too. One of the largest corporations in the world. Curious to see where it’ll go. Just seems like all it’ll do is piss off his donors.
Honestly they probably expect a settlement to avoid “political trouble.”
This is how recent federal lawsuits ended.
Are the betting markets on how big Tylenol’s donation to trumps library will be?
By convincing a jury of normal Americans they’re right.
They could request a bench trial. No jury, just the judge.
Go with the ~98% chance of a conservative judge deciding ? Bold move.
It works for patents, surely it’ll work for lunatic bullshit
Why wouldn’t they? Reality can be anything in Trump’s America.
It’s all fun and games until you realize discovery is a part of a lawsuit
Did their lawyers even pass the bar?
I feel like there’s an opportunity for a multi-layered Epstein-Barr joke in this whole situation, but I can’t quite put it together.
I’m all for it. Let’s have discovery, let’s shine a light on this stupidity.
These folks never change their views after a court case disproves something. They just assume some sort of deep state is in bed with “big pharma” - even if acetaminophen is a low cost and not a big money maker.
Exactly. Like Republicans in 2020 wouldn’t bring any election denial claims to court cause the had no actual evidence
Assuming the process functions normally and doesn’t become political theatre.
Excellent joke, good sir!
We will never get the justice we want through procedure, legal argument and old-guard political players.
We only get the world we want through unified efforts to restructure politics from the ground up. Fuck Texas, let them rot and wallow in dark-ages mythology. While they’re spinning their wheels trying to make shit like phrenology and miasma theory work with modern systems, we can make our own communities shining beacons of reason if we work hard enough together.
You have a lot of faith in a jury system that has historically been terrible at evaluating scientific claims.
I’m all for it. Let’s have discovery, let’s shine a light on this stupidity.
I hear that MAGA hats have chemicals that leach into your brain and make you a complete idiot.
Eh, massive correlation is still not causation. No matter how massive.
For instance, the correlation between Tylenol and autism.
Because there is a correlation. Tylenol is shown to be the most effective tool for combating fevers during pregnancy. And as it happens a high fever during pregnancy is also correlated with an increased incidence of autism. And since that was true prior to Tylenol existing, I’m sure if either of them has anything to do with it, it’s the fever.
if the whole Tylenol thing causes pregnant women to suffer through more fever and that causes more autism… well, laugh is the wrong adjective but the irony would be in abundance
But, don’t you have to be a complete idiot to put on a MAGA hat in the first place?
Given the amount of airborne lead particles in indoor shooting ranges there’s a good argument to be made that failing to take chemical safety precautions will give you brain damage that results in wearing an incredibly stupid red hat with a 70 year old slogan on it.
If there is a civil war, I suspect that Tylenol would be on the side of the Allies & Union. Texans and MAGA will have to use homeopathic remedies to (not) ease their pain.
Oh man crunchy tarot card constellations witches are going to be so confused which side to join.
I imagine it’ll be the homogeneous fascists vs our diverse, rag tag team of misfits. The witches may not like being shoulder-to-shoulder with J&J, but J&J aren’t the ones who made it so the witches can be accused of terrorism and imprisoned due to being “anti-christian.” So they’ll probably begrudgingly accept it.
what strain u smokin
Tylenol is basically paracetamol, right? It’s a generic drug. Why are they suing a specific brand?
I think Tylenol must have a total monopoly on paracetamol sales in that country, as they never refer to it by its non-brand name. Going for the specific brand would be the same as suing every manufacturer.
There absolutely is generic paracetamol, but we often colloquially use the word “tylenol” the same way y’all use “hoover.” It’s technically a brand, but we aren’t always referring to the brand - it’s just another noun sometimes.
In the case of RFK, I can’t explain if it was intentional to name the brand or if it’s simply one more thing he hasn’t applied that much critical thought to before speaking about.
Its called acetaminophen in the states, and there are generics available at every store. Basically each store has a cheaper version of it available under their own branding.
Likely they are targeting the maker of Tylenol because they did the research and safety testing on it, and all the other stuff is based on that. I’m not a scientist though thats just a guess.
they did the research and safety testing on it
You’re missing the largest air quotes of the year here.
It’s acetaminophen That’s the name of the drug it contains
AKA: paracetamol
AFAIK paracetamol and Tylenol are both brand names for acetaminophen.
Though if this is incorrect that’s cool.
Yes it is, paracetamol and acetominophen are alternative names for the molecule N-acetyl-para-aminophenol.
Tylenol, Panadol, Doliprane etc. are brand names.TIL.
Guess what they call acetominophen in the UK?
This is what happens when you put conspiracy theorists into office: You get them suing or attacking organisations for things that aren’t real.
But they prefer the right over the left because of taxes and regulations. I wonder when companies will flip, because they cannot handle the business impact of bullshit decisions like random tariffs or lawsuits over made up controversies any longer.
God I hope texas eats a big old pharma dick on this one. I feel like they’re just anti women at this point.
yeah, “feel like.”
It turns out someone really was after his lucky charms!
Texas based leprechaun association sues all Texan kids for lucky charm thefts going back to the 70’s!
Worst of all is that this probably will end in a settlement where the US government gets to claim they were right in exchange for just a “small” donation to the US government
That’s what colleges and networks were doing for a while, but since Kimmel stood up to them and won BIG, potential victims have been pushing back. Colleges are refusing money with strings, for one thing.
If J&J is smart (and it’s not clear that they are, although they are well-established to be evil), they’ll refuse to settle.
This is upsetting to me.
I’m barely grasping my spot on the AuADHD space, and now it’s been politicized into a single dimensional disease Republicans are using to virtue signal, like the whole vaccine “debate.”
And I’m in freaking Texas. It’s not as Republican as y’all think, especially in the big metros, but somehow we got Paxton in.
And apparently you guys forgot about previous frivolous lawsuits. Huge media conglomerates, and other institutions, settled with the Trump DoJ because they saw them for what they are: a shake down. “Pay us, or you will find political trouble.”
That’s what’s happening.
The merits do not matter. There is no “fight” here.
J&J is going to settle with Texas and maybe others so MAGA doesn’t persecute them outside the lawsuit.
I feel ya, and feel for ya. Good luck and help it together, looking forward to cleaning up with you all after this Cheeto colored fuck dies.
I mean, that’s not going to change anything. We’re in the misinformation era.
Even some Democrat parts of my family share weird shit they get from cable TV or Facebook or influencers or what have you. Frankly, a disturbing amount of Lemmy.world’s front page is clickbait from literal tabloids, too discredited for Wikipedia to even cite, that mods do nothing about because information hygiene only matters when it’s against their ideology.
Meanwhile, my other internet communities have withered away or got swallowed into Discord black holes
Sorry for that mini rant, but as far as I’m concerned the world had shown me attention, not truth, is all that matters. It’s not getting better. And that’s just how things will be from now on.
Hence I don’t like ‘personal’ issues getting dragged into the US two party food fight because it blows out any nuance away, forever. Tylenol will forever be a autism meme no matter how much it’s disproved, especially in the face of small grains of truth.
Well… your “rant” is both correct, & could be the kind of thing that we all need to work together on.
Keep in mind, we dumbass apes figured out RF technology to communicate across the entire globe much faster than we evolved past “strange ape from other city = bad”.
Things are going to improve, it must for our species to survive. But there are no guarantees we will without sine communal effort.
I hope somebody documents every penny Texas wastes on this frivolous crap.
