I was just speaking from what I’ve observed in others’ behavior. I literally have never had alcohol in my life, nor do I ever “go out,” especially not to bars. None of that appeals to me.
Or maybe I’m just introverted. Kind offensive to assume that I’m depressed just because I prefer drinking alone. I mean I am depressed, but not due to a lack of socialization. Drinking is a lot more enjoyable in a peaceful environment, away from loud music, obnoxious drunks, and potential police interactions.
Very cutesy reply. I see you looking down on people who choose to drink elsewhere in this thread. I don’t know if you think alcoholism is funny, or depression is funny, or if you’re just running your mouth about things you don’t understand, but you’re being a bit silly.
My dad was an alcoholic. And I’m well-acquainted with depression. None of this is funny. And I think people who put poison into their bodies are idiots. That shouldn’t even be an opinion. People who put poison into their bodies are idiots. Period. They’re hurting themselves and everyone & everything around them. Just so they can drink something that makes them feel good for a minute.
I even dated a high-functioning alcoholic for 6 years. Same story. Alcohol was more important to him than anyone or anything else in the world no matter how hard he pretended otherwise.
When I say I’m thirsty it means I literally need water. When he said he was thirsty, he meant he needed alcohol. He looked at me like I had three heads when I drank water. He couldn’t even imagine drinking water.
Regarding putting poisons into our bodies, generally a bad idea unless it’s chemotherapy or something prescribed by a doctor who knows the benefits outweigh the risks etc.
I turned legal drinking age this year and alcoholic drinks at bars and events is so expensive. $8-$14 for anything that isn’t beer. Not enough to get a buzz for more than 10 minutes. Back to mocktails for me. I also am extremely socially awkward and don’t know how to order so maybe that’s got something to do with it
That’s what the booze is supposed to help with. Whether or not it does is up for debate but it certainly makes you worry less and that’s a huge part of awkwardness.
Anyone who thinks alcohol “fixes problems” is probably not a serious person. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone who truly believes that. It’s kind of an absurd notion. Unless you’re being extremely pedantic, the problem is “getting money”, and you’re working at a brewery or tending bar, etc.
Alcohol is, however, an inextricable part of the human experience throughout the world. I literally can’t think of a culture for whom some form of fermented grain/fruit/sugar wasn’t a significant element in their cultural development at some point in history.
Many Native American cultures did not know about alcohol before it was introduced by Europeans, same in Australia and New Zealand. The many deleterious effects of colonization are certainly “a significant element in their cultural development” but maybe not in the way you intended.
People who drink do indeed report that in the height of inebriation, everything in their lives feels quite good & well. Then they report the hell of the hangover the next day, and the craving for more alcohol so they can feel good again. A perpetual cycle of drunkenness that eventually affects career & family & finances & domicile stability.
Alcohol is, however, an inextricable part of the human experience
I’ve never had alcohol in my life. Poisoning oneself does not need to be normalized.
It’s pretty clear you have no real concept of what you’re talking about all throughout this thread.
Best quit while you’re behind. Not everyone out drinking is getting lit or subscribing to all the other social ills you’re describing from your “observations.”
These takes are as lame as prejudging someone based on music tastes, hobbies, dress, etc.
I will state some facts. Alcohol is literally poison. Alcohol has calories but no nutrients. Alcohol is not necessary for human consumption. Alcohol is harmful to humans. No benefits aside from being a mind-altering substance that helps people relax or whatever.
My drug of choice is intense physical exercise. All the side effects of physical exercise are good & positive: mentally, physically, & spiritually. Energetic & alert & clear-thinking during the day, and sleep well at night. The effects & benefits of intense physical exercise are real & long-lasting. Not temporary or superficial.
Not going to rip on your hobby or way of life. Maybe suggest you do the same to others.
There is plenty that is harmful in life but enhances it. That, for a fact, is a benefit. Sorry you haven’t grasped that that is life. If you ever had a beer maybe you’d find that you don’t even want the alcohol but found the taste is good. But heaven forbid people make their own choices abbot life without some holier than thou person coming in to lecture them.
I wouldn’t necessarily say it fixes problems and if it does it certainly isn’t free of cost in more than one way. I do think it can temporarily lessen some anxieties that one might view as obstacles to happiness because they impede one’s ability to engage in meaningful social interaction. I also think that making friends and finding romantic partners are learned behaviors that you need practice to get good at. If alcohol can help you be social enough to make friends in a new place or find a partner then I can see why someone would say it fixed a problem for them. It’s certainly more expedient and cost effective than therapy to get past your hangups would be.
That said, that sort of “responsible” use of alcohol isn’t without its drawbacks and risks. I don’t know how common it is either. Perhaps that’s just what people who like to drink tell themselves to avoid feeling shame about their behavior.
It’s technically considered depression & alcoholism to drink alone in one’s house.
Most people use alcohol to unwind & socialize so they do it in social environments.
Ah found the extrovert
I was just speaking from what I’ve observed in others’ behavior. I literally have never had alcohol in my life, nor do I ever “go out,” especially not to bars. None of that appeals to me.
Ok
Or maybe I’m just introverted. Kind offensive to assume that I’m depressed just because I prefer drinking alone. I mean I am depressed, but not due to a lack of socialization. Drinking is a lot more enjoyable in a peaceful environment, away from loud music, obnoxious drunks, and potential police interactions.
It’s not “technically considered depression & alcoholism” to have a drink alone at home. That’s just not true. 🤷♂️
Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt 😉
Very cutesy reply. I see you looking down on people who choose to drink elsewhere in this thread. I don’t know if you think alcoholism is funny, or depression is funny, or if you’re just running your mouth about things you don’t understand, but you’re being a bit silly.
My dad was an alcoholic. And I’m well-acquainted with depression. None of this is funny. And I think people who put poison into their bodies are idiots. That shouldn’t even be an opinion. People who put poison into their bodies are idiots. Period. They’re hurting themselves and everyone & everything around them. Just so they can drink something that makes them feel good for a minute.
I even dated a high-functioning alcoholic for 6 years. Same story. Alcohol was more important to him than anyone or anything else in the world no matter how hard he pretended otherwise.
When I say I’m thirsty it means I literally need water. When he said he was thirsty, he meant he needed alcohol. He looked at me like I had three heads when I drank water. He couldn’t even imagine drinking water.
Regarding putting poisons into our bodies, generally a bad idea unless it’s chemotherapy or something prescribed by a doctor who knows the benefits outweigh the risks etc.
I turned legal drinking age this year and alcoholic drinks at bars and events is so expensive. $8-$14 for anything that isn’t beer. Not enough to get a buzz for more than 10 minutes. Back to mocktails for me. I also am extremely socially awkward and don’t know how to order so maybe that’s got something to do with it
That’s what the booze is supposed to help with. Whether or not it does is up for debate but it certainly makes you worry less and that’s a huge part of awkwardness.
People think alcohol fixes problems, really it only makes problems worse & causes more problems.
Anyone who thinks alcohol “fixes problems” is probably not a serious person. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone who truly believes that. It’s kind of an absurd notion. Unless you’re being extremely pedantic, the problem is “getting money”, and you’re working at a brewery or tending bar, etc.
Alcohol is, however, an inextricable part of the human experience throughout the world. I literally can’t think of a culture for whom some form of fermented grain/fruit/sugar wasn’t a significant element in their cultural development at some point in history.
Many Native American cultures did not know about alcohol before it was introduced by Europeans, same in Australia and New Zealand. The many deleterious effects of colonization are certainly “a significant element in their cultural development” but maybe not in the way you intended.
Sources on that? I’m quite sure they had at least corn beers and other fermented drinks.
They maybe didn’t use them for everyday consumption in the beginning, but they definitively had them.
People who drink do indeed report that in the height of inebriation, everything in their lives feels quite good & well. Then they report the hell of the hangover the next day, and the craving for more alcohol so they can feel good again. A perpetual cycle of drunkenness that eventually affects career & family & finances & domicile stability.
I’ve never had alcohol in my life. Poisoning oneself does not need to be normalized.
It’s pretty clear you have no real concept of what you’re talking about all throughout this thread.
Best quit while you’re behind. Not everyone out drinking is getting lit or subscribing to all the other social ills you’re describing from your “observations.”
These takes are as lame as prejudging someone based on music tastes, hobbies, dress, etc.
I will state some facts. Alcohol is literally poison. Alcohol has calories but no nutrients. Alcohol is not necessary for human consumption. Alcohol is harmful to humans. No benefits aside from being a mind-altering substance that helps people relax or whatever.
My drug of choice is intense physical exercise. All the side effects of physical exercise are good & positive: mentally, physically, & spiritually. Energetic & alert & clear-thinking during the day, and sleep well at night. The effects & benefits of intense physical exercise are real & long-lasting. Not temporary or superficial.
Great for you.
Not going to rip on your hobby or way of life. Maybe suggest you do the same to others.
There is plenty that is harmful in life but enhances it. That, for a fact, is a benefit. Sorry you haven’t grasped that that is life. If you ever had a beer maybe you’d find that you don’t even want the alcohol but found the taste is good. But heaven forbid people make their own choices abbot life without some holier than thou person coming in to lecture them.
I wouldn’t necessarily say it fixes problems and if it does it certainly isn’t free of cost in more than one way. I do think it can temporarily lessen some anxieties that one might view as obstacles to happiness because they impede one’s ability to engage in meaningful social interaction. I also think that making friends and finding romantic partners are learned behaviors that you need practice to get good at. If alcohol can help you be social enough to make friends in a new place or find a partner then I can see why someone would say it fixed a problem for them. It’s certainly more expedient and cost effective than therapy to get past your hangups would be.
That said, that sort of “responsible” use of alcohol isn’t without its drawbacks and risks. I don’t know how common it is either. Perhaps that’s just what people who like to drink tell themselves to avoid feeling shame about their behavior.