It's a crying shame.
  • phutatorius@lemmy.zipEnglish
    1·
    8 days ago

    My favorite spritual attack is to think of people like Peterson and try to visualize justice being done.

    Believe me, if spiritual attacks worked, they’d be scraping him off the walls with a trowel right now.

  • Skullgrid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    114·
    10 days ago

    So, the champion of cleaning your room :

    • Is addicted to drugs
    • Can’t keep a room tidy for shit.

    Amazing.

        • dumbass@aussie.zoneEnglish
          0·
          10 days ago

          Jordan Peterson isn’t a dumbass, he’s a fucking idiot, completely different, dumbasses are fun and have redeemable qualities about them, we don’t know what we’re doing, but we’re having fun doing it, fucking idiots are just miserable sacks of shit with no redeemable qualities at all.

          But I could be wrong , I don’t know wtf I’m doing anymore.

          • Akasazh@feddit.nlEnglish
            0·
            10 days ago

            I’m not sure. You are the one confused about you being Jordan Peterson or not.

            I guess that the question boils down to to having redeemable qualities. At least using your own definition.

            If you have them then you aren’t Jordan Peterson, of you don’t than I have bad news.

            • dumbass@aussie.zoneEnglish
              1·
              10 days ago

              It was more a joke about me smoking weed and not being able to keep a room tidy for shit.

              But just for the record: I do not, have never, nor will ever agree with the views of the crying lobster benzo bitch boy named Jordan Peterson, not in this reality or any of the other realities where he spouts this insane shit through more tears than an onion cutting convention.

    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      10 days ago

      He just needs to be addicted to different drugs. Kick the Kpins and pick up a coke habbit… Problem solved.

    • jimmy90@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      9 days ago

      i think it was a spiritual attack

      satan has come to claim what was owed from his minion. his time is up

  • Chozo@fedia.io
    37·
    10 days ago

    Yeah, I don’t think it’s mold. Or demons. Dude’s 120% back on the benzos.

    • ryannathans@aussie.zoneEnglish
      26·
      10 days ago

      Benzos are super potent mast cell inhibitors, coming off that insane benzo addiction has probably highly sensitised his mast cells which signal for the immune system. Exposure to mold is a common trigger for those with mast cell related disease. As are many foods which he has eliminated

      • Cryptagionismisogynist@lemmy.worldEnglish
        03·
        9 days ago

        Sure but when a mast cell degranulates, it releases histamine, prostaglandins, and other stuff. He isn’t in the hospital for continuous anaphylaxis or pain/inflammation from like PGE2, he is there for a “mold infection.” It seems more likely that his mast cells perhaps died off rather than sensitized due to lack of use / chronic suppression and now he has almost like self induced AIDs/weakened immune system. And probably some vitamin deficiencies exacerbating everything.

        Looking through the literature, chronic benzo use is indeed associated with weakened immune systems AND paradoxically heightened immune responses, probably due to genetic and environmental variability in response to taking those.

        I still think he did some weird ass treatment with his coma in Russia though that he isn’t telling anyone about.

        • ryannathans@aussie.zoneEnglish
          1·
          9 days ago

          I find it remarkable he hasn’t had a mast cell count, or at least mentioned as much when talking about his health

          He seems to have chronic inflammation problems, and when I had mast cell activation problems I never had anaphylaxis. Would be interesting to know what is going on

          • Cryptagionismisogynist@lemmy.worldEnglish
            23·
            9 days ago

            I had mast cell issues that resulted in me getting anaphylaxis to seemingly nothing several times, so everyone is different ofc.

            I don’t know if we will ever know the truth. They never performed a forensic autopsy for Charlie Kirk as far as I’m aware. Protocol isn’t protocol anymore

    • Cryptagionismisogynist@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      9 days ago

      I still think Russian poisoning or experimentation is a possiblility. He is a Russian mouthpiece who went to Russia for a medically induced coma supposedly, he got extremely sick and has been struggling since then. Who’s to say what even happened there

  • bradv@lemmy.caEnglish
    36·
    10 days ago

    Regardless of whether it’s the mold, the diet, a spiritual crisis, or good old-fashioned demonic assault, we can only hope Peterson recovers. Sure, I don’t agree with him about anything, but this weepy, deranged, overemotional basketcase does more to discredit conservative thinking than an army of well-meaning social justice warriors, so I can only wish him a long life.

    • Draces@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      10 days ago

      Dude is responsible for indoctrinating so many desperate kids that just needed any kind of direction. He is not discrediting conservative thinking. Is this author living under a rock?

      • ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        3·
        10 days ago

        I really do think there’s a very definite before and after. At one point he seemed to figure out exactly the cadence and wording that young men especially wanted out of a wisdom-giving father figure. I think he got a lot of mileage out of whining about that one Canadian law proposal at a time when transgendery things were (for better or for worse) less understood by most people. So even if you were sympathetic to them, there was a chance that what he was describing would raise your eyebrow. Didn’t matter that the narrative he was peddling was pretty much fiction.

        And then COVID broke his brain, and he was suddenly terrible at hiding his power level. I think selling increasingly political books titled “All you need to do to live (part 4, final, this is the last one I promise)” and “All you need to do to live (part 5, okay no this one is the last one)” also tired another part of his audience.

        Right now most of the people who looked up to him at the time, even those who both are (and acknowledge) that they are right wing, think he’s lost the plot.

        It’s not a great reassurance that those who let go of him may still have probably been swayed net-rightward by his stuff. But his spiral and widespread perception as a laughing stock, and as a clear example of lack of moral integrity on the right, that’s also a factor. His red crying mug in his messy room is a meme on its own now. This is what he really is: a pompous, pontificating, fragile prick who can’t even use the good parts of his advice for his own sake. Even if it’s as simple as touching grass and cleaning up your shit.

        At one point in my life, during his rise, I had a vaguely positive view of him, and I even bought his book. I viewed myself squarely as an open minded liberal person, and thought of him as relatively moderate. I come from an extremely conservative (in some ways) part of the world, so no alarm bells rang. But with continued learning and meeting new people I was able to rebuild a much more robust and morally sound view of the world and how it works. I recognized how caustic a lot of my beliefs that he influenced me actually are. One of the few things I miss from the old site is /r/ExLobster, it was so enlightening to see how many others went through the same process I did with this guy. It also took off the edge from the embarrassment I felt about falling into this in the first place. I was just vulnerable to his shit at that point in my life and there’s no shame in picking yourself up and moving forward. Then COVID happened, and while he put himself in a coma and wrecked his brain, my country had a multidimensional meltdown, and I did charitable work and mutual aid work and came out the other side with a radically new and solid foundation for my beliefs.

        But you know what was the tipping point for me? It’s a very silly little thing I saw, I don’t recall particularly when. I intentionally avoided his subreddit because I thought I was an enlightened centrist who was above those weird right wingers who dominated that community. But I opened it on a whim once. And someone was asking about “Jordan-Peterson ideology compatible Anime”. Not sure what the exact words were. But there you go. Sometimes you need to see a word salad like that to see how ridiculous the company you’re keeping actually is.

        I think he’s a fascinating case study of the grift economy. I genuinely think that if he was truly the conservalib old-soul psychology professor with an interest in the way Christian theology and vague folktale cosmology influence modern worldviews and narratives, he would definitely be someone I’d pay attention to. At least for his areas of expertise.

        But we know now that he was always mad as a hatter, that he was trying to get famous a decade before he actually did, and that his actual beliefs don’t deserve an iota of public recognition. That the ways he couched them are the sum total of what he was bringing to the table.

        The mythological Jordan Peterson isn’t necessarily a bad guy, the original character, as played in like 2016. The actual one is a pathetic, and now failed cult of personality grifter, an enabler of great evil.

        I hope he feels a fraction of the pain he has caused before he kicks it.

  • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    331·
    10 days ago

    as well as a spate of neurological issues that have apparently left him unable to regulate his emotions.

    How can they even tell? He is just like that.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      10 days ago

      He wasn’t like that before the coma that he went to Russia to get induced to get off benzos. A decade ago he was just an old man who cried “authoritarianism” every time he was told he couldn’t do something.

  • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
    282·
    10 days ago

    I don’t like the man, he seriously sucks, but he needs an official wellness check. He’s clearly becoming increasingly mentally disabled and things like this keep happening in his daughter’s custody.

    That’s not a spiritual attack, it’s mold induced pneumonia in a man with brain damage. He could easily be less capable of resisting the mold. Why the fuck was a man with brain damage trying to clean a moldy room without assistance‽

    Like, seriously for all I hate the man I really get no joy from this, I don’t want him taken away as punishment or anything, I’m mostly concerned for him. I don’t think that the Peterson of a decade ago would be putting the Peterson of today in these positions.

    • Deceptichum@quokk.auEnglish
      163·
      10 days ago

      I want him to die.

      Fuck sympathy for these scum.

      The world would be better off without him in it. Let him rot to death in mold and elder abuse, he deserves worse.

      I’ll save my tears for the victims of his.

      • krooklochurm@lemmy.caEnglish
        31·
        10 days ago

        How would you define mold? How would you define conflict? How would you define is? That’s what I thought.

        • spacemint_rhino@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          10 days ago

          (Kermit voice) What do you mean by mold? Mold in the metaphysical interpretation is a the creeping darkness of social isolation in the post modern environment that young men find themselves. Mold is the hidden predator that consumes even the dragon, the darkness that reflects the greater unknown that surrounds even the leviathan. If you take Moby Dick for instance, mold is the true antagonist, the great depths that surround and threaten both the protagonist, your physical self, and the whale, your metaphysical antithesis! It’s perplexing and I’m just on the verge of being able to understand it and perceive it, it’s right on the verge of my limitations to understand! tears up

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.todayEnglish
      61·
      10 days ago

      hes responsible for bringing men under gop/conservative influences, i saw an article on posted on reddit that he was paid handosomely by russia to spew his propaganda.

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      10 days ago

      He absolutely would if he thought he belonged to one of the out-groups to be persecuted. This fucker has shown no empathy towards others and has played a big part in the rise of fascism we’re seeing today. He deserves no pity.

      • upsidedown@lemmy.worldEnglish
        0·
        10 days ago

        Everyone deserves some pity. If you don’t think so then you really aren’t a good person either.

          • F_State@midwest.socialEnglish
            1·
            10 days ago

            This is why I was glad that Kirk was the victim of the political violence he championed rather than some innocent bystander.

        • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish
          1·
          10 days ago

          everyone deserves some pity at some point, yes

          Peterson has used his up, and he no longer deserves any

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
      2·
      10 days ago

      I remember hearing of him about a decade ago and the few times I heard him he was coherent and made some reasonable arguments

      Since over 5 years ago he went off a cliff

    • Cryptagionismisogynist@lemmy.worldEnglish
      03·
      9 days ago

      It’s genuinely possibly an experiment or poisoning by Russia. He was in Russia for a month or so in a coma to get off benzos. It could also be his sunstance use flaring up. I do not really believe the mold story from the daughter (who is very creepy).

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        0·
        9 days ago

        Hanlon’s razor here: he went looking for any doctors who would do the procedure he wanted and couldn’t get it in north America or any of Europe west of Russia. That indicates that it’s stupidly dangerous without any foul play

        • Cryptagionismisogynist@lemmy.worldEnglish
          13·
          9 days ago

          Do you really believe that? That he couldn’t find ANY doctors to do it except Russia? Or is that just a convenient excuse to go to Russia?

          Further, medical malpractice IS foul play.

  • Cruxifux@feddit.nlEnglish
    221·
    10 days ago

    THE WITCHES STRIKE AGAIN

    seriously contemporary media is just as stupid as it was in early puritan colonialism. Why.

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 days ago

      One part of it is simply profit. Everything is about attention these days and whatever gets attention is being amplified. The other part is deliberate, though. All major media are run by the oligarchy and their main mission is to preserve the status quo. Constant distraction is one of their weapons.

      • Cruxifux@feddit.nlEnglish
        0·
        10 days ago

        I don’t even think they want to preserve the status quo. They want to move back to serfdom.

            • hatorade@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              7 days ago

              She is actively stalking and harassing a user and making shit up about him. That’s why. That’s not her username, it became that when she was banned for lying and trolling.

                • hatorade@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  7 days ago

                  Right? She was told to stop and took that as rape threat. Fucking bizarre.

                  She even went back to my account to spam a long diatribe, and then got banned by another mod team.

                  She’s not acting in good faith.

              • Cruxifux@feddit.nlEnglish
                1·
                7 days ago

                lol actually? To what end are they doing this on Lemmy like the downvotes literally mean nothing here. Just pure stupidity.

  • crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    17·
    10 days ago

    First JKR, now JBP. I’m starting to see a pattern with these career pseudointellectual transphobes and black mold.

  • elbucho@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    10 days ago

    Given that this guy wrote about a dream he had wherein his grandmother grabbed a fistful of her pubes and stroked his face with them while asking him to comment on how soft they were, I think we can rule out demonic attack. They may be the minions of Satan, but even demons would be like “bro, what the fuck?!?”