Can’t imagine what could possibly go wrong with this idea.

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    Which is what? Details please. Your solution must be legal and practical. Go.

    EDIT: As I figured. Angry children will no real policy ideas, no real laws to be enacted, totally ignorant of how Constitutional amendments work.

    I want REAL fucking ideas, real HELP!

    Lemmy: “no you”

    If you’re not adult enough to comment, refrain.

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      get some of the guns off the streets; particularly automatics and semi autos. those didn’t exist for maybe the first quarter to half of the history of the country. feels like every other civilized country seems not to have these problems like we do.

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        Trump has shown us that we can, in fact, send federal agents to enforce laws (and then some) without so much as a whimper. So the solution is obviously to confiscate the guns.

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            Not. Fucking. One.

            All these “Don’t step on snek” motherfuckers are awfully quiet lately. Almost like its the same group of people 🤔

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              I’m loud as fuck around here. Tell me what to do with my guns. Chapter and verse, spell it out. I’ll fucking wait while you compose your answer. Meanwhile, I’ll order more ammo. Thanks for reminding me! About out of .22LR and .45! Going to practice some more at camp tomorrow. (Like I’m not already practiced, but whatever, practice makes perfect.)

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        You must enact this plan without running afoul of the 2nd Amendment. It exists and courts have upheld it to mean a personal right to gun ownership.

        Doesn’t matter if you like it. Doesn’t matter if I like it. The 2nd Amendment is a fact. The court rulings are a fact.

        So? Got a realistic plan?

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          A new constitution. Your government doesn’t give a shit about it, so make a new one.

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            That involves first shooting the 2nd amendment folk so you still need to have guns though?

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              Wow Americans love violence so much you can literally not think of another way, huh?

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                You are a child, or ignorant of history, if you don’t see how this all goes down. Yes, mass violence is coming. Give it a few years, not happening tomorrow or next year, but once Trump’s lawlessness and economy hits bottom, people will fucking riot.

                We’re not a year in and troops are on the streets of 3 major cities. The administration is tightening the noose while Trump descends deeper and deeper into dementia. Did you see the Secretary of War and the President address 800 combat generals and admirals yesterday? Called in from all over the planet? Did you hear the words spoken?!

                Again to history, the planet is tuning up for WWIII. Study WWII history. I did two years of AP European History, I get it, I see it, violence is coming.

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                I’m not American.

                There are tens of millions of rabid Trump supporters with guns. They are not willing to compromise on any single issue and if you disagree with the emperor, that’s treason.

                How exactly are you going to win their hearts and minds while being a wanted terrorist (which you will be declared as, since being against fascism is now officially terrorism)?

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                  Some of these comments blow me away. Guess I’m old and understand history. Which sucks cause I can’t be happy and ignorant.

                  Trump’s memo making me a terrorist for opposing, <checks list>, about everything he’s doing is the scariest thing I’ve seen in American history.

                  Fuck me, I can’t wear certain clothes or fly certain flags without inviting a firefight. And yes, I’ll defend myself. But fuck me, I can’t express certain opinions without risking my life? Fascism is here, now, today.

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          Your god king has already ignored the constitution countless times in the past 9 months. The second amendment means nothing, all thanks to him.

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            We, uh, kinda know all that. Preaching to the choir?

            So anyway, how about answering the question as to how me and my guns navigate this situation?

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          You know, it could be changed. It won’t, because you weaklings love guns more than children’s lives. But it could.

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            Please, do tell us what you know on changing a constitutional amendment. Spell it out, with details. What must happen?

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          trump and by proxy his supporters, cherry pick laws (much like many religious folk do with their biblical teachings) and those who enforce them, openly muses and acts on disobeying long standing, precedented law. congress and the supreme court have abdicated any semblance of independence to the culture cult. for example: trump is trying to end birthright citizenship.

          all those second amendment defenders cry foul of any changes to it in the name of protection from tyrannical government, yet tyrannical government is here and no one bats an eye.

          history is repeating itself, especially when you’re following nazi playbooks. How Hitler Dismantled a Democracy in 53 Dayshttps://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/01/hitler-germany-constitution-authoritarianism/681233/

          there is absolutely nothing normal about what’s going on and yet trigger fingers stand idly by as rome burns

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            Tell me what you would have me do with my guns. I can arm the entire block, if they weren’t already. Young and old, white and black, middle class and poor, gun in every house, and usually several. I know because I know my neighbors.

            What exactly should the little old black lady across the street do with her pistols? Name it. SPEAK OUT.

            I have one life to defend my legal, brown, immigrant wife. And I have two small children I will leave without a father.

            Whatever you tell me to do, it better fucking count for something. I am listening and more than ready. Go.

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      Let more children die. That’s legal and practical.

      Otherwise you’d have to have legislators do their jobs and make laws.

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        Congress can’t make a law that overturns a Constitutional amendment. Doesn’t matter if I like it. Doesn’t matter if you like it. The 2A exists and the courts have upheld it to mean the right to personal gun ownership. You can pick away at it, with minimal success, but what are you actually doing?

        Let more children die.

        The “high score” for school shootings was Virginia Tech. Dude got the vast majority of his kills with a .22 pistol. Were you aiming to ban those? Or were you aiming for AR-15s, which account for <2% of all gun deaths? If you’re not talking about banning pistols, you’ve kinda failed right out the gate. Funny how no one talks that talk. What exactly is your policy and how do you aim to enforce it? I’m listening, because I also want this to end.

        If you want to trash the 2A, I’m listening, but first you have to tell me you understand what it takes to change the Constitution and how you aim to accomplish that. Easy, right? Go.

        So. Again. Practical and legal? Spell it out.

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          Laws are made up, and the people you elect can change them. Don’t tell me that if 100% of the people in the US agreed on something, you couldn’t make it happen. The whole creation of your country was illegal by royal laws and that never seemed to stop anyone.

          The people you elect are also responsible for finding experts, hiring them, listening to them, and fixing the problem.

          So again, my solution is, let more children die. You have to look upwards and to your side for any better solution. Not my job, in my country we had like 2 school shootings in total. It’s barely yours. Wouldn’t be if it was getting done. When you decide it’s yours, get more people on board and demand accountability.