People in a field shoot without reguard to what’s in the direction of the bullets they are firing. Kids flee, a coach is shot and someone thought they should blame the baseball field builders lol. Mate if you fire a gun and there is any reasonable belief that bullet can strike something other than your target, you should be charged with shooting at that object.
To me that means attempting to kill that coach/kids.
IANAL but isn’t this issue of responsibility obviously determined based on the liability waiver that gun range attendees sign? I’d be pretty shocked if gun ranges don’t include personal injury and wrongful death clauses in their liability waiver.
1oo% true. and yet… who would build a a base ball park right next to a gun range?! not saying they are at fault, but like …really? there must be something i don’t know, like was it an indoor range?
i mean ok, i get it. but OOF. i see also that the shooting wasn’t even at the gun range. still seems like a weird place to constantly hear gun fire during your kids little league game
Americans continuing to blame the kids who are being shot at, or absolutely anyone who had anything to do with it EXCEPT the gun nuts, tick, I had that on my bingo card for this thread.
People in a field shoot without reguard to what’s in the direction of the bullets they are firing. Kids flee, a coach is shot and someone thought they should blame the baseball field builders lol. Mate if you fire a gun and there is any reasonable belief that bullet can strike something other than your target, you should be charged with shooting at that object.
To me that means attempting to kill that coach/kids.
If you fire a gun, you are 100% responsible for the bullet, full stop.
Especially if the bullet doesn’t full stop into the target or a barrier behind it.
@[email protected] points out that the barrier had nothing to do with it.
What if you’re at a paid indoor range and your bullet goes through the back stop wall because the range cheaped out?
If you’re moving the goalposts there, just move the lawsuit right over to the range.
The difference is whether the shooter paid sufficient care and those are clear opposites
Moving a goalpost? Triumph said 100% of the time the guy that shot the bullet is responsible for it. I was just pointing out how silly that could be.
That’s not what happened here, though, is it.
Never implied it was.
I said 100% and I meant 100%.
It’s literally the (tort) law. I don’t think the armchair lawyers here understand anything
If you’re defending\agreeing with Triumph, I don’t think you understand tort law.
Literally just had a case in my Tort Law class about this very thing. I think you don’t know anything at all.
I know in my scenario under tort, the gun range or someone further down in the construction of the range would be found liable, and not the shooter.
IANAL but isn’t this issue of responsibility obviously determined based on the liability waiver that gun range attendees sign? I’d be pretty shocked if gun ranges don’t include personal injury and wrongful death clauses in their liability waiver.
1oo% true. and yet… who would build a a base ball park right next to a gun range?! not saying they are at fault, but like …really? there must be something i don’t know, like was it an indoor range?
The outdoor range points away from the baseball field.
i mean ok, i get it. but OOF. i see also that the shooting wasn’t even at the gun range. still seems like a weird place to constantly hear gun fire during your kids little league game
Far west of Houston? All those kids are used to guns already.
Americans continuing to blame the kids who are being shot at, or absolutely anyone who had anything to do with it EXCEPT the gun nuts, tick, I had that on my bingo card for this thread.
These schools are letting woke kids walk in front of bullets.
Sounds like they are getting charged