• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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        17 days ago

        japan is capitalism with actual regulation and oversight, rather than just “hey let’s put the presidency up for auction!”

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          18 days ago

          The first person claimed that jaywalking is a western concept, which is fucking ridiculous — just so we’re clear.

          The second person suggested that capitalism must be the culprit behind why jaywalking is a concept in the U.S.

          So, sure, whatever — both comments are open to ridicule.

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            17 days ago

            They said jaywalking was an American concept and it really is. I think only Germany are also that dumb about crossing roads.

            Why would the idea of jaywalking laws being predominantly pushed by automobile special interest groups seem so wild to you? I mean, don’t tell me you think jaywalking laws have anything to do with people’s safety.

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              17 days ago

              I think only Germany are also that dumb about crossing roads.

              Not even Germany, never heard of it. But cars stop at crosswalks so it makes sense to use them on busy streets.

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            18 days ago

            Because we all know the Eastern countries would NEVER adopt Western concepts, ergo the idea MUST be universal!

            Case closed! Good job! You should treat yourself.

            Meanwhile, OP (who is clearly, obviously wrong) must live in shame. Because there’s just NO WAY they might be correct, and have stated facts that are easily google-able and even has a whole Wikipedia page with all these details with cited sources in the opening paragraph, like this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaywalking

            THAT WOULD BE SILLY

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              18 days ago

              If a thing is adopted everywhere, then…yes, it would be a universal concept. Sure, it would remain an American invention but that’s not what was being said.

              It’s like saying cars are a German concept, because they were invented there. And electronic TVs are American concepts. The rest of the world may have adopted them nowadays but “they are still uniquely German and American concepts.”

              “Only the American mind would conceive of ‘TVs’, other cultures may adopt and ape it but it remains American.”

              “Nothing but the German psyche could generate the concept of ‘cars’. Sure, other countries have adopted ‘cars’, and apply it by themselves, but it’s primarily a German concept.”

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              Yeah, sure, let’s see what the link says about Japan.

              Oh. Japan doesn’t appear in the link.

              But you clearly wouldn’t have posted a link without reading it first and checking whether it supports the “facts” you claim, wouldn’t you? It would be really embarrassing to do something like that, so clearly you wouldn’t do that, right? Right?


              In fact, if you read through all the countries in your link, most countries only have laws against crossing red lights or crossing the road next to a pedestrian crossing.

              In Japan, the only thing that’s illegal in the context of jaywalking is crossing the road at a red light, and even that is only very rarely fined.

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                16 days ago

                Everything you just mentioned supports my assertion.

                Did you get me mixed up with the other guy?

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              Ah, then I guess planes are American concepts.

              I guess I’m starting to understand why eurotrash ends up so mad at America, your entire lives are simply full of Western concepts! Imagine that.

              Life was so much better before the Western concept of flushable toilets.

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                The Wright Brothers were American so yeah, airplanes are in absolute fact American inventions.

                And Flushable Toilets were a British invention. Look shit up before commenting and you won’t seem like such a moron.

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                  Oh I didn’t realize Western and American were synonymous — you’ve really proven your point.

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                    17 days ago

                    You should learn better reading comprehension. Unless you actually think Brittain is part of America? In which case you should learn geography.

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        18 days ago

        I don’t know if they embraced capitalism yet as they were still under imperialist rule in the 1900’s.

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          Despite the claims of American high-school propaganda, capitalism is not synonymous with democracy.

          You can have a capitalist economic system under an imperialist government, the most despotic of dictatorships, a facsist government, under a corporate government or even a failing government.

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            Of course, but it isn’t common. Most of those government types tend to exert pretty tight control over the economy.

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              There’s no such thing as a free market economy.

              One has never existed and one could never exist. In fact, the idea that a free and fair (uncontrolled) market could exist is more utopian than anything you’ll hear from any socialist.

              The wealthiest in the world fo exactly the same thing. They just don’t do it openly, in the way you would find under a traditional dictatorship.

              More so, free market capitalism (even though it couldn’t exist) is only one type of capitalism. So, it’s far from rare but the industry standard for dictatorships, oligarchies and despots.

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                16 days ago

                that a free and fair (uncontrolled) market could exist is more utopian than anything you’ll hear from any socialist.

                Nicely put.