Black, 69, was in a wheelchair, suffering from dementia, brain damage, kidney failure, congestive heart failure and other conditions,
Oh, well, yeah, then I can see why he needed to be executed. Clearly he was an imminent danger to society and everyone around him.
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Needed to be executed quickly before he dies by himself!
Yeah because if he did that then… He … Won? And we lost? I guess?
Yeah!
Honestly if I was in this guy’s situation I might willingly consent to the chair…
Define “quickly.” After all, they waited nearly 40 years for him to develop those conditions before they finally killed him
It’s hard for me to find sympathy for someone who murdered two children and their mother.
But even I have to admit that it feels fucked up to wait 40 years for a man to develop dementia and heart disease before executing him.
depends on what capital punishment does for you personally. it’s honestly not corrective or even preventative in any way. I know some living people I would wish that on and they didn’t even commit murder. but I think I would rather live in a society that instead invested in making sure these crimes never happen
Wishing someone was dead and believing that the government should have the authority to do that are two very different things, though.
correct. so fucking correct, I want to hold what you just said up on the mountain top like simba
I’ve wrestled with myself and reversed my own position several times throughout my life, to the point that I can’t confidently advocate for one side of the issue or the other right now.
In theory, capital punishment would only be used against those who are incontrovertibly guilty. In practice, it has been used against many innocent people who would have been exonerated by later evidence.
In theory, the point of capital punishment would only be to protect society from someone who is actually too dangerous to live, not to exact vengeance. In practice, for most of the people involved, vengeance is a strong motivation.
In theory, capital punishment would be painless and humane, especially compared to a lifetime rotting in prison. In practice, executions are too-often botched, in which case they’re torturously painful.
In theory, capital punishment would be carried out swiftly. In practice, inmates typically spend decades on death row, effectively punishing them with both life in prison and execution.
In theory, capital punishment should be cheaper and less of a state burden than a life sentence. In practice, it’s more expensive due to the appeals and legal review process to which someone on death row is rightfully entitled.
In theory, if I myself were convicted of a capital crime today regardless of whether I was innocent, I would rather die than live the rest of my life in prison without chance of parole. In practice, I have no idea how I would actually face that situation.
In my heart, I want to believe that the world would be better-off if we swiftly and cleanly executed any monsters who prove themselves capable of murdering children. In my mind I know there is no black and white, only shades of gray.
Are you suggesting he should never have been released after that first incident? That sounds even worse
not at all. I just think it’s possible to make a society where that doesn’t happen. not that it’s this one.
Well sure he never to be executed before he could commit the heinous crime of euthanasia!
That would be inhumane!
::: spoiler
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It’s not about logic, or compassion, it’s about JUSTICE - aka revenge, sending a message, setting an example, etc. etc.
While I don’t agree with it, that’s what a LOT of Tennessee voters want.
Could I please not read the most heinous headline ever for five fucking seconds
All seven media witnesses to the execution agreed he appeared to be in discomfort.
NO SHIT!! HE APPEARED TO BE IN DISCOMFORT?!
I wonder why?
Probably gas. I get the same way after eating too much fiber.
Capital punishment should be abolished.
It already is, in civilized countries.
This. The state should not be able to decide who lives and who dies. Too many innocent people have and are put to death every year.
Medieval country.
This just in: the cruelty is the point.
De fucking wat now?? That is excellent not-the-onion content but hoo boy…
Edit: this article is not exactly for the faint of heart. What a godawful thing to put this guy through.
Red states sure do like executing people, don’t they? And it goes without saying he was Black.
The blue states execute black people before they are even born
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It is possible for a person of color to commit a crime. Crazy, I know.
Don’t get me wrong, I think there is still a alarming amount of racism in the justice system. However, not punishing someone because of their race isn’t the solution. People of color are going to be disproportionately committing the most crimes because on average they have a much lower income and quality of life. The problems with our society are not something you can solve by being afraid to punish someone. People who are accused of a crime need to have their rights respected including a fair trial.
CBS shouldn’t be cited as a news source anymore anyway. They’ve gone full magat. Watch their broadcast channel commercials some time. It’s eerie.
If we’re going to execute people, why can we not make a simple gas chamber and flood it with nitrogen gas? Simple, cheap, foolproof, no legal hassles about suffering or cruel and unusual punishment.
Why not just hanging, shooting or beheading? Weird how people are trying to sanitise capital punishment
Even though there’s no physical pain, opponents argue that the process involves great mental and emotional pain.
But I agree that it is one of the most humane and practical forms of involuntary euthanasia. Not that such a thing should be desired in the first place.
it’s long, drawn out, and afaik painful
Nitrogen only atmospheres actually kill fairly quickly, and without any warning.
That’s what makes industrial nitrogen accidents so terrifying.
The pain of suffocating is mostly your body fighting to get rid of CO2.
Now, there was a prison that recently used “nitrogen” to execute someone. But they were dumbasses with it and didn’t let the excess nitrogen and CO2 vent. It was exactly the same as just tying a bag over the guys head.
Maybe we could fill it with nerve gas to spice things up
Who was at risk of being shocked?
If it was the person being executed: Isn’t that the whole idea?
edit: Or maybe they were just worried that the defibrilator would have prevented him from dying. 🤔
I think the point of concern is that it prolonged the entire procedure. His heart was simultaneously being chemically stopped and electrically jump-started.
The defibrillator might actually make it a horrible slow death. Imagine dying over and over again.
There was a concern that the defibrillator would keep bringing him back to life.
