• machinin@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The occupiers in Palestine should be treated with the same dignity as the occupiers in Ukraine.

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      1 year ago

      Right on. The people who are occupying the homeland of the original inhabitants of Palestine should be treated with no dignity and humanity. That’s how moral, civilized people should act!

      By the way, did you know that the original “Palestinians” were Jews until the Muslims went in and conquered it? Crazy to think that the modern day “Palestinians” are the descendants of colonizers who created apartheid states.

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          That’s my stance as well. Peaceful co-existence can and should be achieved.

          Only reason I constantly bring up shit like who conquered and enslaved who is because so many people like to claim “who was here first” doesn’t matter, but they inevitably fall back on that outdated logic. At the end of the day, the vast majority of the “pro-Palestinians” I interact with are just anti-Semites. They don’t actually care about a peaceful situation, they just want Israel to get fucked.

          On top of that, a lot of people don’t realize that the Palestinian governments have a history of rejecting peace deals and working to genocide the Jews. So the history and context does matter.

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            Peaceful coexistence cannot happen as long as Israel is committing genocide and maintains power.

            At the end of the day, most people are pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel. They are not anti-semites despite the never end ding attempt at saying they are by genocide supporting shills such as yourself.

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              Again, everyone who says would be absolutely, 100% correct. If Israel were actually committing genocide.

              Just how conservatives somehow have no clue what the definition of “coup” is, neoliberals have no clue what the definition of “genocide” is. You’re just fucking wrong, you have no fucking proof to back up your claims of genocide.

              What was Israel doing to commit Genocide before October? Blockading Gaza? That’s fucking genocide? You can argue it’s many things, such as a brutal crime against humanity. But fucking genocide? At best, you are utterly fucking delusional. At worst, you’re just another anti-Semitic mouthpiece for Iran.

              Not a single fucking tankie or neoliberal knows what “genocide”, “colonization”, or “apartheid” means. You’re just sheltered fools who don’t know what real, insidious evil is.

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        1 year ago

        From your link:

        According to lexicographer David ben Abraham al-Fasi (died before 1026 CE), the Muslim conquest of Palestine brought relief to the country’s Jewish citizens, who had previously been barred by the Byzantines from praying on the Temple Mount.

        That doesn’t sound like the Muslims drove the Jews out of Palestine or killed them all off, it just sounds like a change of government and one that treated Jews better than the previous one had.

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          And did they liberate the land? Is Jerusalem completely owned by the Jews today?

          Oh, I see. Comparing lesser evils to say one is good is only okay when it fits your agenda. Does it matter that Israel doesn’t explicitly target children and takes measures to reduce civilian deaths while Hamas purposefully targets civilians and beheads babies in front of their families? No? They’re just as evil in your eyes? But the Muslim conquerors are “okay” because they were nicer conquerors for a time?

          Fuck off you deceptive prick. Conquerors aren’t liberators.