This is a genuine question.

I have a hard time with this. My righteous side wants him to face an appropriate sentence, but my pessimistic side thinks this might have set a great example for CEOs to always maintain a level of humanity or face unforseen consequences.

P.S. this topic is highly controversial and I want actual opinions so let’s be civil.

And if you’re a mod, delete this if the post is inappropriate or if it gets too heated.

  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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    16 days ago

    Yes, I do.

    I want the state to make it crystal clear that this guy was the shooter. That he did it. That he had no legal justification to do it. That his actions were undeniably criminal, and that his crime was clearly premeditated.

    And then I want a jury of his peers to return a “not guilty” verdict, and every scumbag business executive across the country suddenly deciding to take an early retirement.

    His jury can’t return that not guilty verdict if he isn’t prosecuted.

  • Makeshift@sh.itjust.works
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    17 days ago

    Maybe get a fine for .0005% of their net worth. You know, so they don’t do it again.

    That’s how it works, right?

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      16 days ago

      Even if he’s caught. Dudes going to get off if he demands a Jury trial. Not a single middle class or poor individual in America has a positive relationship with health insurance. Hell how does a prosecutor even screen jurors for this type of trial?

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    This is a good question from the wrong angle. This event is cathartic for many people because the ultra rich who ruin countless lives never get punished. When they see “consequences” it’s a golden parachute. This event is frustrating because the media, legal, and security apparatuses expect us to treat this assassination as a grave act, but actively normalize the acts of harm Thompson and other leaders like him commit every day.

    This event is revealing in stark terms the divide between the elite and the average person. Should murderers be prosecuted? Sure - in a world where justice and the rule of law matter for everyone equally. Doesn’t feel like we live in that world.

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    If he gets caught, then I’d say yes. Murder should be treated as murder regardless of what the reason is. Making exceptions is never a good idea.

    I just hope he doesn’t get caught.

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      17 days ago

      Then all of the healthcare companies that allow people to die because they will not cover them need to be prosecuted, every executive, every decision maker.

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      I just hope he doesn’t get caught.

      he will get caught. they already have his photo, he is not professional hitman, he can only evade for so long when there is the whole country’s law enforcement after him.

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        Except the photo they have of him with his face visible isn’t even the same guy. Doesn’t even have the same clothes or backpack. So unless this dude is proficient at changing his clothes and ditching a backpack all while riding an electric scooter down the street in New York, then they have the wrong guy in that photo.

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          wtf are you talking about? they have multiple photos and it is obviously the same person

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                  you do understand that these photos are from different place and different time, right?

                  the black backpack seems more like some shoulder duffel bag to me i assume it is from the hostel checkin. people don’t travel around the city with the same luggage they used for inter-city travel.

                  people also can have different clothes for different occasion, like putting on some light rain or wind-proof jacket. it can also be shitty compression from some shitty camera.

                  it is the same person ffs, look at his face, that nose could have passport of its own.

  • Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Do you want to see the people who killed Osama Bin Laden prosecuted?
    Because the United Heath CEO killed far more people, including many more children, than Bin Laden did on 9/11.

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      Do you even know what those words mean? Why do you even want a legal hearing when this was a clear case murder. He’ll be convicted for murder. Because that’s what happened. And the law is rigid in that.

      I think you meant you want to see no sentencing. That’s up to the courts. But there’s no way he isn’t guilty of murder. The only reason we’re all up in arms saying “good” is because the person who was murdered may have quite frankly deserved it.

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        If that’s how you feel, look up jury nullification.

        I personally don’t see any murder here though…

        Weird that you feel this strongly based of media cycle. We don’t know what happened besides that a parasite is fead which is good

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    No. If murdering cops can get away with it, so should someone who killed a guy who has indirectly killed millions through the racket that is health insurance.

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      Amazing how when cops kill people or execs kill people these “moral” topics never come up.

      They get paid for it and we move on lol

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    For the social agreement society has, it’s irrelevant if you think this person is a hero or a villain, they need to be tried by a jury of their peers in a court of law.

    If they are not, then the social agreement that we don’t go around murdering people, no matter the intent changes and life becomes very difficult.

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      That social agreement had been broken long ago by the elites like the one recently targeted. It’s funny that only now when someone finally responds in kind that it is suddenly so important.

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        Don’t call them that. They’re just assholes with too much money.

        I call them the billionaire class. It has the added bonus that it makes it painfully obvious to suburbanites that they aren’t part of the club.

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    Sometimes people provide a public service to humanity is very dark ways. Do not turn this guy in.

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        You mean the man who’s company let sick people die by denying proper healthcare, all for the sake of profits? That innocent man? Do not turn this guy in.

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          By your logic everyone who works any job deserves to die. Your logic is not logical.

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                “I can’t believe they threw me in jail. I pulled a trigger on a gun and shot someone. But other people pull triggers on nail guns all the time and don’t go to jail! It’s the same thing!”

                That’s you right now. Two things can be described by the same action but have very different effects, both morally and legally.

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                  Just Someone who does not believe that people should be gunned down for no reason.

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    Liberals: the justice system is corrupt so it is good Hunter Biden got a pardon

    Also Liberals: this guy should be prosecuted

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      It’s almost as if liberals aren’t the monolithic entity that you thought they were. It might be possible that they are a group of diverse individuals with differing opinions.

      *Edit: I see you quietly edited your comment after I made my comment. Classic.

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      Neo lib acolyte larping regime whores and their owners =/= liberals.

      This ain’t political pedons on both side are united.

      Corpo trash can die in the street, we don’t care.

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    Theoretically: no.

    In practice, in the world we’re living in? Hell no.

    Any attempt to prosecute the killer would simply add to the advantage the ruling class already have, and be basically an injustice by definition no matter how “by the book” could it have been approached in the otherwise wondrful and illusory world of theory.

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      I think the general reception of this news shows that any successful prosecution would be seen as such an injustice, and likely to spark further acts of rebellion. I almost think it’s in the ruling class’s favor to let this one go.

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        I wouldn’t say it’d be “in their favor”. To be honest, I don’t think even the ruling class has a way to make this smply “go away” in the “make sure polices and judges do not pursue this case” sense, and even if they did that’d just spark more animosity towards them that they have this power (i mean, we know they do, it’s just now it’d be visible) and they’re using it.

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    Yes because killing people is wrong.

    Look the CEO probably deserved to get shot, but a society can’t function without some basic rules, like killing is bad.

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      It is day 4 and half of the reddit front page is still dunking on this parasite.

      I think the society is handing out a blank check to anyone willing to take the risk.

      But so far these parasites didn’t get the message… We are hearing is about them spend more money on security for which we will pay with each insurance premium

      IE zero reflection on why this happened

      As IRA said tho… They only need to be right once, UK regime whores had to be right every time

      This is as much psychological as physical war.

      The adjustor did the hard labour while society is doing the psychological assault.

      Parasite and owner classes need to understand that nobody cares when they die.

      Didn’t see nothing man🐸