Hamas’s Qassam Brigades has threatened to execute Israeli captives if Israel continues to bombard and kill civilians in Gaza.
“Any targeting of innocent civilians without warning will be met regretfully by executing one of the captives in our custody, and we will be forced to broadcast this execution,” said Abu Obeida, a spokesman for Hamas’ Qassam Brigades.
“We regret this decision but we hold the Zionist enemy and their leadership the responsibility for this,” he said.
I’m not sure why people wonder, “What is Hamas thinking?!”
They aren’t.
They are a far right fundamentalist extremist terrorist organisation. They are fucking delusional.
Palestinian people deserve so much better than Hamas, and they have to suffer now. That’s just terrible.
They voted Hamas, Support Hamas and sustain it. It was Palestinian civilians who spat onto naked raped bodies of women. Palestinians got what they chose and deserve it. They are no poor people but supporters of s criminal system.
Live 30-40 years in a place where an occupying nation walls your cities, treats you as prisoners, denies and steals resources, and we’ll see which kind of hate you will harbour against your aggressors. You will just see red. I’m not condoning what they are doing but I get why they do, they have been suffering for so long that they want the aggressors to feel the same, and at this point, for them, anyone in Israel is the aggressor. A cornered rabid dog bites anyone.
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Well, yeah, they take half your belongings and they then tell you to accept what you have, I don’t think they will accept it. I don’t believe for an instant that the statehood they were offered covers the land they should have. Is this one of the proposals? What is that divided country.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/UN_Palestine_Partition_Versions_1947.jpg
Now, this is the 2008 proposal? It looks hummilliating.
https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/c_fill,g_faces:center,h_407,w_690/448211 .I don’t know if the second image is correct, but given that it is known that israel has been taking land from palestine, what was offered in 2000, 2001 and 2008 would be even less than 1947, and that one looks super bad too, so I really get why they didn’t accept that mockery of a proposal.Edit: look at the 1995 map and tell me that excomunicating the country in such manner (water pipes, electricity, anything that requires having the country conencted simply doesn’t work) isn’t anything but horrible: https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Ethnic-cleansing.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770 .I have read more and it seems like this is some sort of propaganda, so although the progress of the control zones is kinda correct, the proposals were not those. Don’t check this map. I any case, this source seems more credible and the map is really, really fragmented, my point still stands: https://www.nzz.ch/english/israeli-palestinian-conflict-how-the-political-maps-have-changed-ld.1664125Again, not condoning their actions but… fuck, I really get why they are doing it.
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LMFAO, we’ve beat you like dogs and taken 99% of your land, accept this peace offering… Or else.
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That’s rich.
You just killed civilians, what evidence is there to conclude you wouldn’t kill those ppl anyway.
Both sides of this conflict have done so much horrific shit, you can’t trust any of them.
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So the USN is going to park the newest CVN in the fleet off the coast in a couple days. If they don’t end up participating in some sort of massive hostage rescue operation with a bunch of SEALs (and, perhaps, other regional/NATO specops branches), I’m honestly going to be kinda surprised.
This is very much “fuck around and find out” territory. I don’t think Hamas realizes how much the rules have changed in reaction to what they did this weekend. Israel isn’t going to stop until they’ve killed or captured every last militant they can get their hands on in Gaza.
Obligatory disclaimer: Both the IDF and various incarnations of Arab alliances/rebels/terrorist groups have been unequivocally heinous towards each other (and their respective affiliated civilian populations) since Israel became a country. We’re not here to debate that. This is about an attack on civilians in Israel that, proportional to their national population, had five times the casualties that 9/11 inflicted.
Every country who is an ally of Isreal will be sending in their special ops teams to assist, we can be sure of that. I expect the Canadian teams to be involved. I am sure there is a national kidnapped or killed from almost all developed countries by the sound of it.
Haha I love it how you guys watched enough GI Joe movies to think you can just helicopter some guys with night goggles into Gaza to surprise Hamas and free a few hundred hostages before they know what’s up
Here’s what’ll happen in the real world: either they decide to surrender thousands of prisoners and admit defeat (highly unlikely) or they’ll decide it’s time to drop as many bombs as they can spare on Gaza as quickly as possible (unlikely) or they’ll keep dropping bombs on confirmed positions for a few weeks and transition back to the status quo when support starts to wane (rather likely).
I’m sure Hamas will start offing Israeli and US hostages first while other governments can buy their citizens back for a couple mill a pop in the background
I dunno, the internet has told me that Israel is just as bad. I definitely remember when the IDF took a bunch of civilian women and children as hostages and then announced that it was going to livestream their murder.
Oh wait.
There are no good guys in that conflict.
Only bad guys and victims.
Hamas being terrorists doesn’t make it OK for Israel to be committed to genocide any more than Israel’s existence as an ethnofascist apartheid state makes in OK for Hamas to be bombing proms.
Both organizations are making it impossible for Palestinians to live peacefully.
If Israel were committed to genocide there would be no Palestine. It is their historical sensitivity to genocide and limitations placed on them by international law and foreign pressures that imposes on them very different standards of behavior in this war. If they operated by the same set of rules that Hamas does, this conflict would have been over long ago.
Others were captured and bound and kidnapped. “I saw videos with a male getting held by a group of Arab kids. Like, they’re like 16, 17,” one survivor recalled. “They’re kids, but they’re young men already, and they’re holding this guy, and he looks as his girlfriend is being mounted on a bike and driven away from him. God knows what she’s going to experience … Women have been raped at the area of the rave next to their friends bodies, dead bodies.”
Several of these rape victims appear to have been later executed. Others were taken to Gaza. In photographs released online, you can see several paraded through the city’s streets, blood gushing from between their legs.
One survivor who’d returned to the scene later in the day to look for his friends spoke, in a breaking voice, of what he’d seen. Of the bodies, mainly of young women, lying cold and mutilated. Of scantily clad corpses, many of whom appeared to have been shot at point-blank. Of cars, perforated by bullets or blown up by grenades.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/israel-music-festival-massacre-eyewitness-accountIsrael does not perform atrocities like this. This wasn’t collateral damage, this wasn’t an attack on a valid military target, it was intentionally kidnapping, raping, and murdering civilians. This sort of behavior makes it very hard for me to swallow the, “both sides are equally bad,” narrative. I had a lot of sympathy for the Palestinian situation before, it is quickly evaporating.
Snark aside, I do completely agree, and there’s a lot that I would criticize Israel for. That list does not, however, include mass murder, rape, and kidnapping of random civilians.
It does include apartheid, genocide, belief in racial superiority and murdering journalists though. We can’t equate what one side has done with the other as one side has generally held all the power while one side has been persistently oppressed. Also, it’s pretty hard to say whether mass murder, rape and kidnapping civilians is as bad as, worse than, or better than genocide.
The Israeli government regularly commits atrocities and crimes against humanity. Hamas regularly commits atrocities and crimes against humanity. There are no good guys here, just bad guys in charge being funded and goaded by other bad guys and innocent civilians being needlessly murdered.
Just your typical 80 yr occupation with no real options to even become a state, I mean how bad could that be right?
Except that Oslo accord that they walked out on, and that fact that this is happening in the Gaza strip, a section of Palestinian controlled land with the 1967 borders, a foreign and maritime border and had all Jewish residents (including those that predated the 1948 beginning of hostilities) evicted, often an gunpoint and has had autonomy for nearly two decades now right? Besides that option.
Why would they negotiate with Terrorists?
Palistine, don’t you know you’re just supposed to let yourself be genocided quietly? You weren’t supposed to fight back! The status quo! The more I see this shit the more I have to laugh. Is what Hamas doing good? No, not even remotely. Is it what you expect from people who have been nearly totally eradicated by the opressors that completely surround them? Yes, definitely.
This is the Hannibal Directive in action. The Zionist regime does not and has not ever cared about civilian casualties.
