I have never heard of Jill Stein until just a few months ago when I saw some article about her on the Lemmy homepage. Then I saw more and more articles about her. However, I don’t really know why the media is paying so much attention to her. She is just a third party candidate, right? There are other third party candidates that aren’t constantly popping up in the news. So why Jill Stein? I hear its something to do with Russia and a general sense of her goal being to take votes away from Kamala.

  • Sundial@lemm.ee
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    14 days ago

    That’s pretty nuch it. Every election cycle has 3rd party candidates. This time it’s gotten more attention in the media because there’s a good chunk of people, mainly Arabs, who are refusing to vote Democrat as “fuck you” to Harris and her support of Israel.

        • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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          Yes we are, but ðere’s such a þing as degrees, and we’re talking a potential shift in degrees here ðat is comparable to ð detonation of a fucking nuke.

          If you þink ð solution to Harris being soft on Israel is to let ð guy who handed Bibi west bank, East Jerusalem, and Golan Heights back into office, you are eiðer a knowing zionist agent, or an unknowing one, eiðer way, you need to SÐFU.

  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
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    I’m going to let you in on a little secret. I voted for Jill Stein in 2016.

    In my defense, I didn’t think Trump had a chance, and I definitely didn’t expect him to be as terrible as he eventually proved. I was feeling salty about the DNC not giving Bernie a fair chance in the primaries (how and why, I don’t remember) and Hilary just felt like she was constantly condescending and not even trying to earn the presidency. It felt like someone decided it was her turn and they’d just slide her into her rightful throne.

    My vote for the green party was official record that they hadn’t earned my vote, even though I would never vote for Trump.

    I’m sure my one single vote wouldn’t have changed anything, but I bet there are plenty of others that felt the and did the same, and still regret it.

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      I’m sure my one single vote wouldn’t have changed anything, but I bet there are plenty of others that felt the and did the same, and still regret it.

      Depends on what state you were in for that election, and how many other people voted for Stein alongside you.

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        14 days ago

        Oh fuck.

        Trump won PA by half a percent.

        Stein got .8% of the votes.

        Stein, the DNC, and 50 thousand people just like me, literally handed him the presidency.

        I’m SO sorry, everybody.

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          You didn’t hand Trump the presidency. The Dems did by not trying to gain your vote.

          Never blame yourself for the flaws of representative “democracy”.

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            14 days ago

            If “ð other choice is fascism” isn’t enough, ðen you’re eiðer a fascist yourself, or damn close enough for ð sake of ð people who actually have to live wið ð consequences of your privileged decision making.

            Some people don’t have ð luxury of being able to karen at ð two party system and demand to see democracy’s manager to choose to not let fascists get into office so ðat ð not fascists “learn ðeir lesson”

  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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    Here are some of the common complaints about Jill Stein:

    As the Green Party candidate she will pull in more third party votes than most (if not all) of the other parties. While those views are usually trivial in number in the grand scheme of things, they can have a big impact in let seeing states.

    She has not gone out of her way to criticize Trump, and has instead treated both Trump and Harris as being equally bad, even though Trump is arguably much more anti-environmental than Harris.

    This isn’t her first time coming in as what’s seen as a Democrat vote-spoiler candidate.

    From the perspective of some, she pops up every four years to try to take votes off the Democrat candidate and then seemingly disappears for another four years.

    She has a bit of a cult of personality thing going on - arguably moreso than either Harris or Biden.

    She’s in her mid-70s, and so no spring chicken. This has become more of a concern this cycle because a) she’s for years older than she was in 2020 (obviously), b) age has become more of a point of concern given how both Biden and Trump have apparently seen marked cognitive decline at less than 10 years her seniors.

    There’s some evidence to suggest she is cozy with Putin, who is clearly does not have America’s best interests in mind. For example, she was photographed at a fancy dinner sitting at the same table as him and several of his ‘crew’ (among others). The common excuse for this is “she didn’t choose her seating!” But equally there’s no reason she couldn’t have got up and moved or left the event.

    Photo of the dinner in question, with labels:

    I’m sure there are other points I’m missing. But those are the ones that spring to mind.