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    “[F]or a comment. This is ridiculous, for a comment,” he allegedly said. “I guess I’m gonna need a lawyer.”

    The comment:

    Carillo in one post said Harris doesn’t “have a snowballs chance in hell which is exactly where you’re going and soon. I will cut your eyes out of your FUCKING head” and “will make sure you suffer a slow agonizing death."

    He said he would “personally” set Harris on fire “if no one else does."

    Carillo said Harris is “going to regret ever trying to become president because if that ever happened I will personally pluck out her eyes with a pair of pliers but first I will shoot and kill everyone that gets in my way that is a fucking promise.”

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      What is it that this person believes she has done that deserves such a horrible death? It’s hard for me to wrap my mind around why someone thinks like this

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        There’s been a coordinated campaign of dehumanization in the right-wing media for decades. This guy has been indoctrinated to see her as the enemy and to not see her as a person

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          Even the most evil people I can think of. The most I’d want them to “suffer” is the realization of how terrible they are, before they enter the void. I don’t want them tortured. I don’t want to hurt them. I just want them to not exist.

          The “comments” this guy made are psychotic. I don’t mean that in a hyperbolic kind of way. I mean in a “danger to society” kind of way.

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            Yep. I’ve written my fair share of angry opinionated comments. I managed to do it without threatening death on any elected officials though, or of anyone at all, and I especially did not do so while also claiming to be a member of the “law and order” party. Somehow, no matter how angry I got, I was able to recognize that assassination was probably not a good line to cross, even in rhetoric.

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            I just want them to not exist.

            So you want them to die, you just don’t want them to be killed? Lol

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              I certainly see your point. That said, devil’s advocate, the comment doesn’t refer merely to political opponents, but rather:

              the most evil people I can think of

              Can you honestly say that you wouldn’t painlessly snap, let’s say, a proven serial child rapist out of existence? I think I’d do it, if for some reason the justice system was unable to stop them.

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                Yeah, there’s a gulf of difference between wanting a problem to disappear vs relishing the incredibly detailed idea of pain and suffering of another human being. One’s like putting down a rabid dog, the other is just pain for pains sake.

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        Here is the complete and exhaustive list of things Kamala has done to wrong this person:

        1. Be a Democrat
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            all democrats are blacks and black sympathizers (same thing to these guys)

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              all democrats are blacks and black sympathizers (same thing to these guys)

              So they aren’t all wrong. Black folks have not only been wronged all throughout our nation’s history in obvious and non-obvious ways, IMO they have already been mostly thanklessly taking the brunt of what is coming for the rest of us if Trump gets in again for all this time, and as a people have arguably done so with amazing grace and restraint overall.

              I mean, I’m not black, but if such a thing as a “black sympathizer” exists, I’m it.

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        I used to hear this kind of shit all the time when I had a trumper as a supervisor. I almost did call the feds once when he and several other people were talking about shooting people for living in a city. I’ve of them had just bought a gun and was in the waiting period. It’s obviously just shit talk, but I should have burned them for being pieces of shit.

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        She’s a symbolic scapegoat for everything wrong in americans lives and thus the source of everything wrong with this guys life.

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        Because “Muh Teem No Mattur Wut!” Stupidity, which is pitiable, and Hatefulness, which isn’t.

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        A figurehead saying the same thing therefore making the act seem normal. That’s why being called weird stings them so much because they know they are, they know you know that and they are counting on you not doing anything about it

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        She probably wore a tan suit or put mustard on a hot dog at some point in her life.

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          Not just regular mustard, but the fancy Dijon shit. The type that you can find right next to the regular yellow mustard and is typically only slightly more expensive ($0.20) per 12 FL oz.

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        I wonder if it is some kind of frustration burst release that finds a convenient path of list effort in the far-right propaganda. Like when people get furious alone inside their own car and call everybody names, or gamers threatening your life online after some loss, because there’s no perceived emotional consequences so they don’t need to restrain themselves, same idea but more extreme. I don’t think most of those people would have the heart of doing such horrible things if they were in front of their target and had to face the inevitable human empathy. Sociopaths with zero empathy are probably much rarer than Trump supporters.

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        Then probably in the next sentence would rant about the violent left

        But yeah, I don’t get it, I wouldn’t wish torture even on the worst people in the world and history, it’s just really unnecessary and disturbing

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        Out of all the thousand stories we’ve all seen where the message is that sometimes you end up being worse than your enemy, it all flew completely over some people’s heads. They’re different. Sure, other people’s violence isn’t justifiable. But mine is.

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      How stupid of him. If only had just said “haha sike naw jk lol lol lol” after every sentence.

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        I just want to get to a world where “that is a fucking promise” is actually a promise.

        This is like the whole “figuratively” vs. “literally” thing turned up to 11. Are you actually, literally promising to do something? If not, then don’t say “I promise” just to make it understood that you feel something passionately.

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      Oh, wow. Yep, seems like a crime. Laughing about or wishing death is free speech. Indicating that you intend to do something is the line.

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      “I thought this was America where we have FREEDOM OF SPEECH to just comment on how we’re going to torture, mutilate, and kill presidential candidates, not some communist fascist dictatorship. Except if you talk bad about Trump, you’ll get killed for that.” –Somebody somewhere

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    They’ve really normalized this shit to the point they don’t understand why it’s wrong…

    It’s just like 1/6, there’s a few that are serious and dangerous, and they’re hiding among a large group of fucking idiots and using them as human shields.

    Normalizing violence is something fascists always do before the actual violence, they’re getting people desensitized to the idea of it.

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      they’ve never understood it to BE wrong, much less why. all they know is the fear mongering rhetoric of “they’re coming to take your guns, turn your kids gay, and forcibly terminate your pregnancies” along with the whole “you’re not a real man if you’re not violent” ideal, since the GOP stance can’t win on policy

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    Turns out violent threats are not protected speech under the first amendment. Who knew?!

    Fuck around and find out.

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    Imagine living in a country, proclaiming yourself as rabidly patriotic, and not even knowing some of its most basic laws.

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    Imagine the level of training to attain such a perspective:

    Hoist with his own Google review:

    Ouch, the stupid:

    approximately 4,359 posts/replies

    Give or take

    Good job FBI, who knows whether he was serious but there’s a reason there’s an exact statute for this and he actually had weapons - not a good look buddy.

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      Lucky that the investigator had that tech training or the suspect could have slipped away

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      I feel like after one threat like this you shouldn’t legally be allowed to own weapons.

      If found with an illegal weapon after these statements should be recited in front of a judge/jury during trial so they know why the person shouldn’t be allowed to have it. These kinds of threats are not things that normal, rational people make.

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      I imagine they cranked into high gear after someone took a shot at Trump. Assassination attempts tend to beget more.

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    Tangential but also relevant; I worked in a larger construction company until a year ago and it was multi state. Imagine my surprise when word spread that the FBI was looking for an employee in another department regarding 1/6. Before Jan 6 he had been filmed jumping up on a table at the local Costco with a megaphone and spewing filth.

    There are always signs.

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    For these mouth-breathers, “'Murica! Freeeedum!” means:
    Whatever lazy, angry, ignorant, all-viscera-no-brains image I cooked up while living alone and bitter in a neglected and crumbling old house with a few “KEEP OUT!”/“TRESPASSERS WILL BE SHOT” signs around the goddamned perimeter.

    Their tiny little minds live in a tiny, narrow and flat, miserable little world. And here’s the kicker - that’s the way they want it, out of sheer lazy inertia.

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    This is why you only threaten politicians that are already dead.

    For example, pissing on Ronald Reagan’s grave, the deceased shitty actor just to be clear, is still on my bucket list.

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    At least this guy will no longer have access to guns after this.

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      As long as he: a) doesn’t get a trump judge and b) trump doesn’t get in office.

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        Unfortunately for him

        “[F]or a comment. This is ridiculous, for a comment,” he allegedly said. “I guess I’m gonna need a lawyer.”

        Is essentially an confession that it was his comment, from a jury’s perspective. Not that I would expect a moron that makes death threats to know when not to speak.

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    I remember how worked up I could get when I was a child in the internet.

    I used to write very poor emails absolutely livid whenever a videogame journalist would write a piece about how Nintendo should give up making consoles and just focus on games.

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    “Frank Lucio Carillo” I hope now that his name is out there that he doesn’t get the same treatment that he gives to others.