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    Israel actually does care about getting aid into the country

    Is this why there was the flour massacre and many others around that time, and why the WCK aid workers were killed? Oh yeah and why they said they were stopping all food and water? And why there is much less aid coming in than there was before the war even started, when the need was much lower?

    Words are cheap. Israel’s actions speak volumes.

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      Wow, two trucks blown up out of how many tens of thousands of trucks? You don’t find your reaction a little hysterical?

      What? There is less aid than before the war because there is a war. How does that not make sense to you?

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        Wow, two trucks blown up out of how many tens of thousands of trucks?

        Don’t be an idiot. They were travelling a “safe” route. They were coordinating their position with Israel. They were innocent aid workers. They should have never been killed. Making out it is fine because it’s “rare” is ridiculous.

        If you want to play numbers, Israel killed 254 aid workers up to the end of April.

        You don’t find your reaction a little hysterical?

        “Hysterical”? No. I used no emotive language (apart from “massacre” which is generally how that event is referred to), I just listed some of the many facts that show Israel is the main problem for aid distribution. Calling this “hysterical” is a pathetic rhetorical trick to make out that that everyone else is “emotional” and you are “rational.” It’s embarrassing.

        Hysterical would be: OMG those innocent aid workers were BUTCHERED by Israel, brutally killed in the prime of their life. This is the worst crime imaginable, can you think of how their parents feel?! These people are monsters, MONSTERS. Worse than Hitler. Like Satan himself. If you didn’t cry about this you are SCUM.

        I said they “were killed.”

        Totally emotionless.

        What? There is less aid than before the war because there is a war. How does that not make sense to you?

        It’s totally possible to designate actual safe zones for humanitarian purposes and give these people aid. And “because there is a war” there is much more need for humanitarian aid. Because Israel has destroyed food production, water desalination plants and much more. But obviously you know that.

        Israel increased the demand for aid, killed people distributing aid, stops much of the aid from getting in, and makes it impossible to safely get it (e.g. flour massacre) and you have the gall to say they “want” aid in. Give us a fucking break.

        From here

        Around 500 trucks with aid and other commercial supplies were entering Gaza daily before the conflict, when the enclave was also able to produce much of its food through agriculture and fishing, both of which have nearly entirely ceased.

        UNRWA communications director Juliette Touma said both humanitarian and commercial supplies were needed for Gaza because the entire population was now dependent on handouts, which was not sustainable.

        Down from 500 to 100 to 200 a day. Rarely (like in the linked story) more, often much less. Never 500 since October, despite calls from around the world.

        This is why you fall back on pretending everyone arguing with you is overly emotional or just stupid. The facts are staring all of us in the face and we see it too clearly. You want to pretend this is “normal” but have to really double down in the face of such overwhelming evidence.

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          Yes two aid trucks, two accidents, neither one was covered up, the perpetrators were fired and will be prosecuted. That’s normal for war.

          What’s not normal is a country that needs 500 aid trucks a day. Gaza has been dependent on handouts for decades. They would have had Darfur-level starvation twenty years ago and would not exist at all today if not for the charity of the West and, mainly, the charity of Israel.

          That charity is the very thing that enables Hamas. The people of Gaza would never tolerate Hamas if they actually had to pay the price of it. You know, the price of diverting all of your country’s natural resources to building terror tunnels, turning all of your countries International banking and shipping infrastructure into modalities of international terrorism.

          Hey, they would need zero trucks a day if they used their water port or air port, used their international relations to broker commodities trading.

          No, they have no interest. They are happy to live on handouts as long as their leadership is fielding mercenaries to kill Jews.

          That’s who you’re defending.

          But you are flat out lying. Gaza has built three desalinization plants in Gaza since this war has started. Every one of them built with charity. Every one of them built with materials that Israel allowed into the country. None of the three have been bombed.

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            But you are flat out lying. Gaza has built three desalinization plants in Gaza since this war has started. Every one of them built with charity. Every one of them built with materials that Israel allowed into the country. None of the three have been bombed.

            Please read: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68969239

            Yes two aid trucks, two accidents, neither one was covered up, the perpetrators were fired and will be prosecuted. That’s normal for war.

            And did you just ignore the hundreds of killed aid workers I mentioned (and linked a source for) in my last comment? You say just “two accidents” as if that’s it.

            What’s not normal is a country that needs 500 aid trucks a day. Gaza has been dependent on handouts for decades

            Lol I wonder why 🤣

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              And half of Gaza’s water infrastructure being destroyed (based on BBC satellite photos and guesswork) also does not impress me.

              It should not have been diverted to support terrorists holding hundreds of hostages underground for months on end. That’s why it was a target.

              Oh no, poor Gaza. They gave all their water to terrorism and didn’t save enough for themselves. Policy has consequences. Your gripes are with Gaza’s water policy under Hamas, not with people who are defending themselves.

              And like, Jesus fucking Christ. Did you read your own article? Did you look at the photograph in the very first picture in the article that shows the water tanks clearly were not targeted by Israel? No, of course you didn’t, because it doesn’t support your imaginary version of the evil Jew.

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                And half of Gaza’s water infrastructure being destroyed (based on BBC satellite photos and guesswork) also does not impress me

                Wasn’t trying to impress you. Just clarifying that I was not lying.

                Oh no, poor Gaza. They gave all their water to terrorism and didn’t save enough for themselves.

                “Gave all their water to terrorism” - do you even hear yourself? Did the malnourished children “give” their water to Hamas? I can’t even believe you’re being serious here.

                And like, Jesus fucking Christ. Did you read your own article? Did you look at the photograph in the very first picture in the article that shows the water tanks clearly were not targeted by Israel?

                Yeah of course I did. It’s the middle one here. How exactly does this show it’s not been targeted? And if they really aren’t targeting them, why have 53% been destroyed or damaged? Are they the worst army at aiming in the world or something?

                No, of course you didn’t, because it doesn’t support your imaginary version of the evil Jew.

                Are you saying I’m antisemitic for believing the FACT that Israel has damaged much of the water infrastructure in Gaza?