• acargitz@lemmy.ca
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        5 months ago

        The Hajj has been taking place over 1000 years. Hyper-aggro heatwaves in June is a new thing however. It wasn’t religion, it was climate change.

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              Yeah and all the communist states are super ecologically friendly, oh no you don’t belive they are communist do you? Handy.

              But let’s imagine a perfectly communist society, are workers all able to heat their house? Able to travel freely? Enjoy hobbies? If you answered yes to these then your either going to need magic or energy.

              You can’t just pretend capitalism is responsible for everything bad, unchecked consumption can happen in any system as can over production, ecological destruction, and all sorts of potential problems. I would love to transition to a decent type of communism but I’m not going to pretend it’ll fix the climate on its own.

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          They all know the consequences and they think God will protect them from whatever… Yeah, religion killed them.

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        According to traditional sources, Aisha was six or seven years old when betrothed to Muhammad,[94][95][96][97] with the marriage being consummated when she reached the age of nine or ten years old whilst she still played with dolls.[98][b] In the commentary of the Sahih Bukhari it is written that, “Playing with dolls is forbidden in Islam, but it was allowed for Aisha at that time, as she did not yet reach the age of puberty.”[106] Beginning in the early twentieth century, Christian polemicists and orientalists attacked what they deemed to be Muhammad’s deviant sexuality, for having married an underage[c] girl; acute condemnations came from the likes of Harvey Newcomb and David Samuel Margoliouth while others were mild, choosing to explain how the “heat of tropics” made “girls of Arabia” mature at an early age.[108][114] While most Muslims defended the traditionally accepted age of Aisha with vigor emphasizing on cultural relativism, the political dimensions of the marriage, Aisha’s “exceptional qualities” etc., some — Abbas Mahmoud al-Aqqad in Egypt and others[d] — chose to re-calculate the age and fix it at late adolescence as a tool of social reform in their homelands or even, mere pandering to different audiences.[108][115][e]

        In the late-twentieth century and early twenty-first century, opponents of Islam have used Aisha’s age to accuse Muhammad of pedophilia, as well as explain a reported higher prevalence of child marriage in Muslim societies.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Muhammad

        Don’t get me started on the current Muslim practices…

        Before you start spazzing… this aint Islam specific as we can see Catholic church is notorious pedo org too.

        With that being said, I am sorry bad facts hurts your feelz dear.

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          The pelgrimage to Mekka where Muslims worship uuuuuhhhhh…

          Mohammed! Their God!

          Which uhhhh

          frantically pastes generic poorly researched Wikipedia article full of contradictions

          Pedophile!

          Don’t look up the history of anyone from before the 20th century when these supposed Christians suddenly reached enlightenment. The inclusion of Christians is especially weird since they always pushed for younger ages of marriage than Muslims in the middle ages. Back then the Muslims were supposedly prudes.

          Wonder why everyone didn’t wait until they were 35 to get married in a time where the average life expectancy was 31 years.

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            the history of anyone before the 20th century

            Does it count when talking about prophets, deities, gods and such? Weren’t they meant to be perfect?

            I don’t recall the possibility of god and his messangers being imperfect, in any century.

            We humans, we are flawed and have societies whose notions are not static because we evolve. God can’t afford the excuse of “errors of the past, I evolved”

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              You are ascribing evolution to a society of warmongers committing Genocide on children in Palestine. A society addicted more to wealth than human suffering trying to lecture people on what correct morals are.

              A society with an abundance of food where people are starving.

              I would reconsider how correct the Wests morals are.

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                I didn’t even specify any religion. I just said that god, any god, by definition, can’t evolve.

                This ain’t Hercules adventures where gods are just sky humans with perks. Mainstream gods (&co) are all perfect in their “mysterious ways”.

                As such, if a prophet was into pedophilia, then either pedophilia is right (which I personally find odd… but them I’m merely human…) or that prophet wasn’t exactly the most exemplary lad.

                Whatever the case, people’s lives are worth of dignity, be it Palestinians, Israelis, South Africans or Santa. That’s not what I was arguing against at all. We can defend people while, at the same time, pointing the finger out at some bullshit they do.

                The west is also full of bullshit. So what? We can also point the finger at that. Be my guest. I never said that we were perfect.

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                  The discussion is so shunned in Western society that it is well understood one should always repeat your opinion in public and never question it.

                  I would once again ask why teenagers having sex is regarded as totally normal as long as long as the person they are having sex with is not 18 yet.

                  If teenagers truly should not be subject to sexual experiences because they are not ready then surely this would not be normal. Or is it okay if a victim performs the deed?

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    I don’t see any references or sources at all in the page, and I couldn’t find other news sites with comparable numbers, I call bullshit.

    it was reported that there was 41 jordanians who died trying to get to mecca without permits and they slept outside in the sun so that part was true but inflated number, the Egyptians thing is just a lie.