The House passed a GOP-led bill that would impose sanctions on the ICC after its top prosecutor recommended war crimes charges against Israel's Netanyahu.
Maybe, but that argument is getting harder and harder for neoliberals to make as the DNC continues trying to court the far-right on things like immigration, genocide and corporate welfare. They’ve done such an incompetent job of protecting our most basic freedoms from fascists that it makes it hard to claim they aren’t complicit.
Bro we’re just sanctioning the ICC for proscecuting war criminals. We’re abusing presidential powers to ship weapons used to commit Genocide and also abuse those power to bypass congress the same way Trump did. Just abusing presidential powers to implement illegal border policies. Bro stop nitpicking you only mentioned like 5 things you can’t even mention 6 things bro.
Not a fan of Biden, but he’s not the one shipping the weapon’s. Congress approved that, he held it back for a little until Congress started working toward a bill to force him to ship them and he relented. Should have stuck to his guns, imho and let them pass the bill to overrule him so it’d look bad on Congress for doing it, but the sad thing is that he’d just look like he was in the way of what a large portion of the country apparently wants. The GOP is all about being on Israel’s side.
The president doesn’t have as much power as people think he does.
You keep using the word fascist but I don’t think you understand what it means… The fact that this was voted on and the party was divided is proof that it isn’t fascism
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3]
So you’ve got people from the same party voting differently, they aren’t getting suppressed, they’re often voting against what their president would favour… Man, sure sounds like fascism to me!
Using the outcome of one vote as to substantiate a lack of fascism is akin to taking a glass of water from the ocean and affirming that the ocean is devoid of life.
So you are saying that if I find votes the republicans are divided on you magically have a point? Why is the party not voting as a party to begin with? Does this mean that some Democrats are actually Republicans if it’s not convenient?
We just went from a 2 party to a 1.5 party system in order to deny the Democrats are getting in line to pass this highly Fascist law to sanction the ICC for proscecuting war criminals.
Tell me what was the point of voting Democrat instead of Republican again? To prevent literally this right?
Okay so fascism is when the Republicans vote the same.
Now I pull up this article and you say the Republicans are not fascists right?
When it comes to Democrats doing the Fascist thing suddenly people slap on all these interesting requirements for it to be Fascism. When Trump did a Muslim ban it was super duper Fascism instantly. Selling weapons to Saudi for the Genocide of Yemenis? Omega Fascism! Biden uses the same powers to support GENOCIDE but suddenly it doesn’t count because the sun and the moon aren’t aligned in June and the grass on my lawn grows a little faster than usual.
You were talking about the fascist Democrats, remember? It’s not requirements, it’s what fascism is, an authoritarian regime under the control of a single person.
The time to fix that is before and during the primaries. When you’re in the booth with a choice between a Democrat and a Republican, the choice should be obvious
Yes. By all means primary one of those democrats who voted for this out if you can, but if you got to the general election and the choice was between a pro Israel Republican and pro Israel Democrat, it would still be way better to pick the dem.
100% of house Republicans voted for this, while only 20% of house Democrats did. Right now the Republicans control what bills come to the floor for a vote since they have a majority. If Democrats had the majority and controlled the speakership, this bill never would have even come up for a vote in the first place since so few in their caucus support it overall. A pro Israel dem is not ideal, but at least helps ensure the 100% pro Israel (and a bajillion other reasons for being horrible besides this issue) Republicans don’t control the agenda for what bills come up in the house and senate.
42 Dems voted for this nonsense.
Let me tell you how absolutely “shocked” I am to see Wasserman Schultz on the list of dems that voted for this. /s
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Probably still better than the fascist GOP alternatives though
True but it is sad that the only left leaning party (that can get elected at least) still has members and a president ok with what they are seeing.
For sure better than literal Nazis but we need to do better.
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This attitude is why we keep getting pulled further to the right.
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Please name a left leaning party in the US that has a realistic chance of beating Trump and I’ll vote for them
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Splitting the vote isn’t going to win you any elections.
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Maybe, but that argument is getting harder and harder for neoliberals to make as the DNC continues trying to court the far-right on things like immigration, genocide and corporate welfare. They’ve done such an incompetent job of protecting our most basic freedoms from fascists that it makes it hard to claim they aren’t complicit.
Ah yes the non Fascist Democrats sanctioning the ICC.
Slightly more “moderate” Fascists are Fascists as well.
Democrats are more right wing than 2016 Republicans right now. It’s time to abandon this myth that voting for them is somehow going to fix anything.
Lmaoo. What a disingenuous argument.
Bro we’re just sanctioning the ICC for proscecuting war criminals. We’re abusing presidential powers to ship weapons used to commit Genocide and also abuse those power to bypass congress the same way Trump did. Just abusing presidential powers to implement illegal border policies. Bro stop nitpicking you only mentioned like 5 things you can’t even mention 6 things bro.
Not a fan of Biden, but he’s not the one shipping the weapon’s. Congress approved that, he held it back for a little until Congress started working toward a bill to force him to ship them and he relented. Should have stuck to his guns, imho and let them pass the bill to overrule him so it’d look bad on Congress for doing it, but the sad thing is that he’d just look like he was in the way of what a large portion of the country apparently wants. The GOP is all about being on Israel’s side.
The president doesn’t have as much power as people think he does.
Let’s ignore the multiple times he’s bypassed Congress to ship weapons. Israel is getting the stooge they’ve paid $12m for
The president has more power than you think he does. And Biden made sure to abuse it for Fascist policies
We even have Biden going full Trump mode just yesterday:
But when Biden does the things we were in shambles about when Trump did them, it’s okay right?
Aside from a few blind idiots I think most people are seeing those things and saying "wow Biden REALLY wants to lose huh…
You keep using the word fascist but I don’t think you understand what it means… The fact that this was voted on and the party was divided is proof that it isn’t fascism
Hmm, it sounds like you don’t understand the term fascism.
So you’ve got people from the same party voting differently, they aren’t getting suppressed, they’re often voting against what their president would favour… Man, sure sounds like fascism to me!
Using the outcome of one vote as to substantiate a lack of fascism is akin to taking a glass of water from the ocean and affirming that the ocean is devoid of life.
So you are saying that if I find votes the republicans are divided on you magically have a point? Why is the party not voting as a party to begin with? Does this mean that some Democrats are actually Republicans if it’s not convenient?
We just went from a 2 party to a 1.5 party system in order to deny the Democrats are getting in line to pass this highly Fascist law to sanction the ICC for proscecuting war criminals.
Tell me what was the point of voting Democrat instead of Republican again? To prevent literally this right?
So you want the party to vote as a block no matter what? And you’re complaining about fascism? Do you realize how ridiculous that is?
Okay so fascism is when the Republicans vote the same.
Now I pull up this article and you say the Republicans are not fascists right?
When it comes to Democrats doing the Fascist thing suddenly people slap on all these interesting requirements for it to be Fascism. When Trump did a Muslim ban it was super duper Fascism instantly. Selling weapons to Saudi for the Genocide of Yemenis? Omega Fascism! Biden uses the same powers to support GENOCIDE but suddenly it doesn’t count because the sun and the moon aren’t aligned in June and the grass on my lawn grows a little faster than usual.
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You were talking about the fascist Democrats, remember? It’s not requirements, it’s what fascism is, an authoritarian regime under the control of a single person.
You’re presenting a graph on how the house voted on grounding MTG’s attempt to oust Johnson as speaker.
Present the graph on how the house voted regarding the ICC.
The time to fix that is before and during the primaries. When you’re in the booth with a choice between a Democrat and a Republican, the choice should be obvious
Yes. By all means primary one of those democrats who voted for this out if you can, but if you got to the general election and the choice was between a pro Israel Republican and pro Israel Democrat, it would still be way better to pick the dem.
100% of house Republicans voted for this, while only 20% of house Democrats did. Right now the Republicans control what bills come to the floor for a vote since they have a majority. If Democrats had the majority and controlled the speakership, this bill never would have even come up for a vote in the first place since so few in their caucus support it overall. A pro Israel dem is not ideal, but at least helps ensure the 100% pro Israel (and a bajillion other reasons for being horrible besides this issue) Republicans don’t control the agenda for what bills come up in the house and senate.
It makes more sense to resist oppressors at all costs.
Seems idiotic to pretend you are resisting when the cost is assisting the oppressors to gain more power.