• Mesophar@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    I fail to see the equivalency between “murder a bunch of people” and “a bunch of people are no longer allowed in a luxury resort”.

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      5 months ago

      False equivalencies seem to be the stock-in-trade of the anti-Palestinian trolls these days.

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        5 months ago

        Imagine thinking I’m anti-Palestinian because I don’t support a blanket ban on Israeli travel. The state of the “discourse” nowadays…

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          5 months ago

          One small country in the middle of the ocean is a ‘blanket ban on Israeli travel?’

          Banning someone from your resort island is the same sort of punishment of civilians as killing them?

          The state of discourse indeed…

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            5 months ago

            Banning someone from your resort island is the same sort of punishment of civilians as killing them?

            No, but punishing population for the actions of their government is always bad, always unacceptable, and specially when the country isn’t even democratic like Israel never was. For one thing - this ban does not only affect Israelis, but also 2 millions of Palestinians who live in Israel proper. Wikipedia - Demographics of Israel

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              5 months ago

              And yet your post implied some sort of equivalency.

              Also, I notice you didn’t say anything about the “blanket ban” part.

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                5 months ago

                And yet your post implied some sort of equivalency.

                Equivalency - I have to confess English isn’t my first language and I am not sure I understand what you mean specifically/ in what context. Would you please care to explain?

                As for the blanket ban - while it wasn’t my comment, I don’t find it unreasonable - how would you describe a rule advertised as punishing extremist Zionism that also punishes both post Zionists and anti Zionists all the same?

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            5 months ago

            Banning someone from your resort island is the same sort of punishment of civilians as killing them?

            It actually is the same sort of punishment, yeah - the difference is one of degree. Kicking you in the shin once and punching you in the face fifty times are both “assault”. It’s concerning that most here don’t understand that.

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              5 months ago

              You still haven’t addressed that ‘blanket ban’ thing you said. After lamenting the poor quality of discourse.

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                5 months ago

                I like how you completely dodged what I just said. What is there to address about the blanket ban? A country is banning all travel from another country. It doesn’t get more “blanket” than that.

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                  5 months ago

                  Ah, and now the dishonesty. That is not what people mean when they say a blanket ban on travel and I’m sure you’re not stupid, so you know that.

                  There’s a reason that the AP article linked above doesn’t use that term in this case.

                  What is there to address about the blanket ban?

                  I don’t know, how about something like, “okay, I didn’t mean ‘blanket ban,’ that was wrong of me.”

                  But, of course, this is the internet and admitting your wrong is the worst thing ever, so I won’t be holding my breath.

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                    5 months ago

                    Haha what? They’re banning all Israeli passport holders. Do you have some special definition of “blanket ban” that you manipulate to suit your purposes?

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      5 months ago

      I fail to see the link between the people murdering Palestinians (The IDF) and the people no longer allowed in the Maldives (Civilians).

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      5 months ago

      IMO the equivalency is in how you’ve chosen those individuals that don’t deserve to live / that are no longer allowed to enter…