Hamas says it has launched a rocket attack towards the Tel Aviv area in central Israel for the first time in nearly four months. At least eight rockets were launched from the Rafah area in southern Gaza and several were intercepted, the Israeli military says. No injuries have been reported.

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    Soo… the battle of Berlin was a genocide against the German people, because the Soviets killed 125000 German civilians besides the enemy combatants.

    Call it what it is: a war. There are blockades, starvation, massacres in war, especially in urban combat. That is why you avoid declaring war or invading your neighbours, like hamas did on Oct 7th, but hamas doesn’t give a shit about Palestinians, so long as they manage to wipe out Israel.

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      Is it war when one group is wholly reliant on another for access to food, water, communication, electricity and other forms of aid?

      It’s ridiculous to call this a war when there’s such a dependency. Israel wants Palestinians in gaza over the southern border or dead, an ethnic cleansing and genocide.

      Not to mention the West Bank, which is not controlled by Hamas, being a center of settler violence and concentration camps for Palestinians.

      Some war.

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        Why is Palestine not a country? When Israel was created, Palestine was supposed to have been officially created too, you know why?

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          Would you have accepted someone slicing the territory your people lived in as far back as you remember, expelling you from your home and telling you to move someplace else? I wouldn’t have. Perhaps that’s why.

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            You mean the 1948 partition resolution (which didn’t expel anyone from anywhere) or the 1967 armistice borders? Or do you mean the illegal settlements in the West Bank?

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              Ah yes, nobody expelled anyone from anywhere in 1948.

              The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when Zionist paramilitaries attacked the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, Mandatory Palestine, killing at least 107 Palestinian villagers, including women and children. … The massacre was carried out despite the village having agreed to a non-aggression pact. … was a central component of the Nakba and the 1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight.

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                Ok, fine, I read up on it and the Nakba was BEFORE the declaration of war by arab states. I think I saw an explanation that said they were expelled because they supported the arab invaders…which was propaganda I guess.

                I guess it is a sort of “civil war” of independence, but still pretty fucked up any way you look at it :/

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                  The DW documentary “Israel - Birth of a State” is very informative if you can find a way to watch it. It’s from earlier in 2023, by one of Germany’s major news outlets.

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                    Man, I usually have no trouble finding these docs all over the internet, but this one was harder than expected for an official public broadcaster like DW. All samples in youtube were made private, even the ones that had been published in other sites, the Internet Archive version is mangled…piped and yewtube can’t show it… I had to stoop down to the level of bitchute, but it was there :D thanks for the recommendation. https://www.bitchute.com/video/zh8PPsipFwgH/

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      The Soviets in WWII are not really an image you want to be compared to. They actually did commit multiple genocides in that era. Not against the Germans, I mean they did murder and rape a lot of people, but they were not motivated by the eradication of the German population. Those murders and rapes were “simply” war crimes.

      So the battle of Berlin was not a genocide. Katyn and the Holodomor arguably were. Killing innocent civilians is “just” murder, a war crime. When Ben-Gvir speaks of fighting “human animals”, making Gaza a “slaughterhouse” and “erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth”, that makes it into a genocide.

      It’s the motivation, especially the explicit, professed motivation of the leadership that makes what Israel - and by the way, also Hamas, though less successfully - is doing genocide, not just “normal” war crimes.

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        Yea, there are a number of guys in the Israeli government that should answer for war crimes too, particularly that fanatic gvir.

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      The only invaders are the Zionists who were invited into Palestine and then repaid the favour by ethnically cleansing 750000 Palestinians and committing genocide.

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      7 months and you’re still getting this wrong.

      Genocide does not have to exterminate everyone to be considered genocide. Erasing the nation is also a definition of genocide; and Netanyahu has publicly admitted to this. His party charter says to eliminate Palestine. He said he will never allow a Palestinian state, and that Palestinians don’t exist and are just Jordanians. His cabinet has toyed with the idea of forcibly deporting all Palestinians. The ICC and ICJ have spelled out how Netanyahu’s policies meet the definition of genocide.

      Can we let this falsehood die already?

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        Grozny 1999

        Ramadi/Fallujah/Mossul 2004-2016

        Aleppo/Homs 2012-2016

        Mariupol/Bakhmut/Avdiivka 2022-2024

        Gaza 2024

        So yea, bibi, gvir and the hamas leadership should all rot in jail for war crimes to set an example. assad, putin and bush too.