As I said - it’s fucking complicated. Do you owe your life because you were born somewhere? How long do you have to live there until you owe your life?
There are very valid concerns on both sides - I really hope that Russia is stopped in their tracks… but would you support an increased draft? Would you support it if your country was offering your life up involuntarily as part of an expeditionary force?
These aren’t easy questions, at least in my opinion.
I was born in America and now am a Canadian citizen. I’m pretty doubtful I’d die for either country unless their motives closely aligned with my personal value. I do regret that you’ve been downvoted so severely, your general opinion and offer of self-sacrifice is certainly something I’ve genuinely seen in people before and I think it comes from a noble ideal.
The problem, IMO, is that this policy is far too broad and punishing. I much prefer the US approach here which has always been to offer ever increasing carrots - I’m less comfortable using the stick to increase service manpower.
Welcome to the lemmy rage of downvoting just to downvote.
The US wasn’t always carrots. Draft dodging was taken pretty seriously in the past. Most people don’t realize we use to draft on a regular basis even when we were not at war. That’s how a lot of young men learned their job trade.
I get why prior avoided the Vietnam war. In my youth I would gave went. Now that I’m 50 I would have questioned the war heavily.
You called people unreliable citizens for… Not wanting to die in a war created by those who will never serve in it. I don’t want to fight nor die for arbitrary borders on the whim of whoever is in charge. Killing someone because you were forced to is disgusting.
As I said - it’s fucking complicated. Do you owe your life because you were born somewhere? How long do you have to live there until you owe your life?
There are very valid concerns on both sides - I really hope that Russia is stopped in their tracks… but would you support an increased draft? Would you support it if your country was offering your life up involuntarily as part of an expeditionary force?
These aren’t easy questions, at least in my opinion.
I agree.
I don’t live there, so my opinion doesn’t matter. I could say yes, but it isn’t my ass going to the front line.
If America was invaded, yes, I would fight my country. Technically, I wouldn’t fight as I am a medical officer in the Army, but you get my point.
Would I go overseas? I did previously but I am less inclined now. I would not want to go fight for Ukraine, this is their battle.
I was born in America and now am a Canadian citizen. I’m pretty doubtful I’d die for either country unless their motives closely aligned with my personal value. I do regret that you’ve been downvoted so severely, your general opinion and offer of self-sacrifice is certainly something I’ve genuinely seen in people before and I think it comes from a noble ideal.
The problem, IMO, is that this policy is far too broad and punishing. I much prefer the US approach here which has always been to offer ever increasing carrots - I’m less comfortable using the stick to increase service manpower.
Welcome to the lemmy rage of downvoting just to downvote.
The US wasn’t always carrots. Draft dodging was taken pretty seriously in the past. Most people don’t realize we use to draft on a regular basis even when we were not at war. That’s how a lot of young men learned their job trade.
I get why prior avoided the Vietnam war. In my youth I would gave went. Now that I’m 50 I would have questioned the war heavily.
You called people unreliable citizens for… Not wanting to die in a war created by those who will never serve in it. I don’t want to fight nor die for arbitrary borders on the whim of whoever is in charge. Killing someone because you were forced to is disgusting.
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