Two sisters and their partners, in their 20s and early 30s, posed in front of the house for photos and one of the women gave the stiff-armed Hitler salute, Austrian police said.
I like where your heads at, and I’m usually all for anything that makes it harder to be a Nazi. Like, seriously, how is that still a thing in 2024?
But, it’s one of those slippery slopes where you have to wonder how far you take the idea, and at one point does banning just Nazi symbolism slowly turn into banning symbolism of things the government just doesn’t care for today. It’s easy to say that “We stop at Nazis” but then it just takes one asshole saying “Oh, does that mean this other group isn’t so bad because we’re not applying it to them?”.
I get that. There’s very few things that are black and white in the world. But the fact remains that allowing nazis ANY leeway at all makes them think they can do whatever they want. And that ain’t the way this game is played.
Believe whatever you want … but the minute those beliefs turn into actions that harm people, you’re done. Zero tolerance.
I’d want the wording on such a law to be extremely specific so as not to be weaponized by saying anything the current people in power don’t like is a Nazi symbol.
But it couldn’t be and still have any worth, since the symbols would constantly change to remain hidden. It would simply further impede upon freedom of speech and expression the more you try to stop it.
I interpreted the “you” in the reply to my comment as referring to me specifically.
If it was meant as a general “you”, then I take it back. I’m not trying build a strawman. I’m just trying to disagree with the notion that every country should have laws like Germany and Austria.
Every nation in the world should enact the same law.
edit - Seems I’ve upset the nazi sympathizers today. My good deed is done.
I like where your heads at, and I’m usually all for anything that makes it harder to be a Nazi. Like, seriously, how is that still a thing in 2024?
But, it’s one of those slippery slopes where you have to wonder how far you take the idea, and at one point does banning just Nazi symbolism slowly turn into banning symbolism of things the government just doesn’t care for today. It’s easy to say that “We stop at Nazis” but then it just takes one asshole saying “Oh, does that mean this other group isn’t so bad because we’re not applying it to them?”.
I get that. There’s very few things that are black and white in the world. But the fact remains that allowing nazis ANY leeway at all makes them think they can do whatever they want. And that ain’t the way this game is played.
Believe whatever you want … but the minute those beliefs turn into actions that harm people, you’re done. Zero tolerance.
I agree - But what these douchebags did wasn’t harmful to anyone.
Austria thinks different.
Understandable.
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Lemmy has at least 6 fascist loving twats hanging around?
Honestly wonder what the fuck they’re doing here. Fuck off nazi scum
Thing is, they know how to hide their symbols but still perpetuate their ideology
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I’d want the wording on such a law to be extremely specific so as not to be weaponized by saying anything the current people in power don’t like is a Nazi symbol.
But it couldn’t be and still have any worth, since the symbols would constantly change to remain hidden. It would simply further impede upon freedom of speech and expression the more you try to stop it.
You’ve perfectly described the problem with what the OP is proposing. Disagreeing with that position doesn’t make you a Nazi.
Someone wants to keep their pepe memes.
I think Germany is suffering because of this law. It feeds the conspiracy native that these movements often thrive upon.
Yeah, more authoritarianism. That has historically solved all the worlds problems.
Don’t you understand, if we make the symbols illegal then people won’t have those beliefs anymore. Duh.
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Accusing a stranger of being a Nazi when faced with reasonable disagreement; the mark of true enlightenment.
Strawman visits again.
I interpreted the “you” in the reply to my comment as referring to me specifically.
If it was meant as a general “you”, then I take it back. I’m not trying build a strawman. I’m just trying to disagree with the notion that every country should have laws like Germany and Austria.