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    11 months ago

    Are you asking if it’s doable to have self determination and not kill anyone?

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      11 months ago

      Well kinda, I asked if they are not allowed to do that in a way that won’t turn into violence .
      You know self determination is very general term. I could self determine at the expense of you or I could do it in neutral or even beneficial way to you. But I’m merely asking if they are not allowed.

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        11 months ago

        Since we’re talking avour Israel, I mean the same one they say they have.

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          11 months ago

          Do you mean shelling neighbors or democracy ? And again aren’t Palestinians allowed self determination without violence ? To me you seem to have reason to think they aren’t. I’m just trying to figure out what is the reason.

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            11 months ago

            To me you seem to have reason to think they aren’t

            I think you are totally misreading the situation here. /: Maybe some background info you seem to have missing about this entire issue?

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              11 months ago

              Not sure. I’m just asking plain simple question, that is: "Aren’t Palestinians allowed self determination without violence ? "

              Maybe (American Heritage) definition of self determination could help ?

              • Determination of one’s own fate or course of action without compulsion; free will.
              • Freedom of the people of a given area to determine their own political status; independence.
              • Determination by one’s self or itself; determination by one’s own will or powers, without extraneous impulse or influence.
              • Determination by one’s self; or, determination of one’s acts or states without the necessitating force of motives; – applied to the voluntary or activity.
              • The ability or right to make one’s own decisions without interference from others.
              • The political independence of a people.
              • Determination of one’s own fate or course of action without compulsion.
              • Government of a political unit by its own people.

              source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.