UN Security Council passes resolution calling for an “immediate ceasefire” in Gaza, as US shifts position by abstaining from vote

  • gmtom@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    What you mean to tell me geopolitical diplomacy is more complicated and delicate than the people screaming “genocide Joe” think it is??? Shocking.

    • soratoyuki@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      No. It means enough people screaming genocide Joe loudly enough had a small but tangible impact on American foreign policy.

        • AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          You don’t think that realizing he was pissing off his base, during an election year, has any impact on his choices?

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            7 months ago

            Considering those people are not going to vote Trump over this, or probably any issue, I don’t think he cares, no.

            • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
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              7 months ago

              It’s not about people changing their minds. Centrists don’t really exist. It’s about motivating people to actually fucking vote. When people vote, Dems win. When Dems are unpopular, people don’t vote and Rs win because they vote no matter what.

              • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                7 months ago

                No, we’re all happily voting 3rd party. Legit none of us stay home.

                Edit: Seriously downvote all you want, I’m just letting you genojoe does not win if that’s who you decide to run in the end. Your move, DNC.

            • njm1314@lemmy.world
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              7 months ago

              You say that but I think there’s a sizable number that already are voting for Trump

        • soratoyuki@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          Certainly not, but he definitely cares about the 100,000 people that voted uncommitted in Michigan and the littany of polls that show a majority of Democratic and young voters not supporting current US foreign policy.

        • pjwestin@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          The uncommitted movement got 100K votes Michigan, and within days the Biden administration started a complete 180 on Israel. It’s more than a few Twitter users and he clearly cares very deeply.

      • gmtom@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        No

        So you’re unironically arguing that geopolitical diplomacy IS actually simple? Really?

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            7 months ago

            That sentence isn’t relevant though is it?

            Do you think geopolitics is that simple or nah?

            • soratoyuki@lemmy.world
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              7 months ago

              Of course the sentence is relevant. I’m not sure why I should bother writing a reply to you when you apparently stop reading them after the first word. Have a good day.

              • gmtom@lemmy.world
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                7 months ago

                JFC you aren’t even denying it. you guys actually unironically believe it’s that simple.

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                    7 months ago

                    It’s not selective reading. If I make a statement and you say “No” that mea s you’re refuting that statement.

                    Then their second sentence had nothing to do with wether they think these politics are simple or not, hence why I didn’t quit it.

                    The OP is just using bad faith arguments to distracts from that. Which is why they don’t even attempt to deny it and just criticise the fact I didn’t quote their entire comment instead of responding.

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      7 months ago

      Do you suppose that Bibi believes there are ramifications for going into Rafah now?