• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Yeah bro…

    The only reason to be upset with Biden is his support of Israel’s genocide…

    /s

    There’s also:

    1. What he wants to do with our border

    2. Pretending “the economy” is more about billionaires wealth and average Americans aren’t important

    3. Record breaking fossil fuels production

    4. Just ignoring the healthcare crisis

    And a shit ton of other things.

    Supporting Israel could very well be all you care about, but lots of people aren’t that simple.

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        9 months ago

        If you get to pick between no food, or half enough food to survive…

        How much effort would you put in to starve to death slower?

        Running a bad candidate depresses turnout. And depressed turnout is the only way Republicans win.

        Running Joe Biden is the biggest factor that helps Trump’s chances of winning, and there’s zero fucking reason we’re handing it to him.

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          9 months ago

          The vast majority of people will choose half food for the chance to live until more food is available. There is not another candidate from the Dems that has the national recognition as Biden, or the successes that Biden should be doing a better job of selling, that could take his place at this point in time.

          Yes, I would rather they ran someone else. But with half the voting population all in on wish.com Hitler it is necessary to eat half the food now and hope for a better candidate next time.

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            9 months ago

            Except we only get a presidential election every four years, and not everyone will still be alive then

            That’s not even part of the starvation example.

            Literally people you’re asking to pick the lesser evil right now will die because of that lesser evil before the 2028 election.

            Maybe you’re upper middle class and it’s not a big deal.

            Congrats, you’re a very small percentage of Americans and the total votes Biden needs to win.

            If you want to help Biden, try having some empathy for the less fortunate and start screaming your head off at the Dem party while there’s time.

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              9 months ago

              We should absolutely give Biden grief up until November when we need to grit our teeth and accept aomething less than perfection to vote against the Republicans who are worse on every single topic.

              It isn’t like Biden is the only Democrat who is supporting Israel. How many Dems are passing the funding legislation that Biden signs? Who are they going to put up instead of him that opposes Israel?

              Nobody.

              Biden is the best that the party can put forth right now, and we should give him grief to get him to change. The action agsinst Biden in the primaries is great!

              But come November it will be critical to vote against Trump, and a vote for anything other than a Democrat is a vote for Trump because of our stupid voting system.

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                9 months ago

                C’mon man…

                The DNC blacklists companies for working on primary campaigns against House incumbents…

                They straight up removed delegates from the first state primary because in the last two elections they picked progressives over party favorites…

                “Just vote in the primaries” is about a decade outdated at the point.

                I’ll probably still vote D in the general, just like I’ve held my nose to do in all but a single general election. 08 Obama I was actually hype to vote D, and we flipped a bunch of red states the DNC gave up on

                But not everyone will this year, and Biden doesn’t have a lot of breathing room.

                The best thing you can do to prevent trump from winning is do anything you can think of to drag Biden to the left.

                Just shutting up and voting Biden isn’t enough, he’s too weak of a candidate to expect that to work again.

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                  9 months ago

                  I’m voting Biden, but every time they ask me for money I’m telling them no and I’m telling them why. And they ask me for money A LOT.

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                    9 months ago

                    I replied to one text explaining how I can’t trust the DNC after the 2016 “donor sharing” and the NH primary was cancelled, so I’d only give directly to progressive candidates.

                    I was just venting, but it worked.

                    Haven’t got a single email/text asking for money again and it’s been a couple months.

                    Which honestly, is concerning.

                    Getting big 2016 Hillary “if you don’t already love me, fuck you I don’t need your vote” vibes.

                    Last time Dems used that strategy, we got stuck with trump for four years. And Biden himself has always had a habit of lashing out when people don’t bow to him. It’s what crashed his 1988 primary and stopped him from running for president for 20 years until Republicans lowered the bar enough on what was acceptable behavior from a presidential candidate.

                    Back then lying about plagiarizing speeches, law school grades, and screaming at reporters about how much smarter you are was disqualifying.