• XIIIesq@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    How is he a Russian spy?

    Wiki leaks are published for all to view, not just Russia.

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      10 months ago

      I wouldn’t characterize him as a Russian spy, more of an asset. Wikileaks selectively released information rather than being the safe harbor for all intelligence leaks that they purported to be.

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        10 months ago

        >Wikileaks selectively released information rather than being the safe harbor for all intelligence leaks that they purported to be.

        what makes you think that it was any more than only releasing important leaks? no one cares about the timeclock at mcdonald’s on 5th and main.

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            10 months ago

            curious how you’re obsessed with repeating that lie over and over again…

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                10 months ago

                keep on obsessively repeating that lie without actually checking it out, then

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                  10 months ago

                  It’s not a lie, he refused to publish the Kremlin leaks for reasons I found paper thin. Sorry we don’t agree, I’ll refrain from calling you names because what’s the fucking point?

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                    10 months ago

                    yeah well can you provide a real source for that? maybe other than “one secret person told this paper, and by golly we believe them!”

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            10 months ago

            wasn’t he taking asylum in russia? do you really think he should have made enemies there when the US et al were already trying to jail him?

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              10 months ago

              You’re thinking of Snowden. Assange was at an Ecuadorian embassy in London. Two very different cases.

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                  Someone who worked inside Wikileaks certainly felt they were newsworthy

                  We had several leaks sent to Wikileaks, including the Russian hack. It would have exposed Russian activities and shown WikiLeaks was not controlled by Russian security services,” the source who provided the messages wrote to FP. “Many Wikileaks staff and volunteers or their families suffered at the hands of Russian corruption and cruelty, we were sure Wikileaks would release it. Assange gave excuse after excuse.”

                  You can read more here

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                    Foreign Policy endorsed Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton in the 2016 US presidential election. This was the first time in its 50-year history the magazine endorsed a candidate.

                    you will forgive me if i don’t find your source to be credible in this regard.

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              wasn’t he taking asylum in russia? do you really think he should have made enemies there when the US et al were already trying to jail him?

              what makes you think that it was any more than only releasing important leaks?

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      10 months ago

      I don’t agree with the root comment, but Wikileaks has repeatedly ignored leaks of Russian classified info and many of their sources appear to be Russian Intelligence.

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          Lmao. I wasn’t born yesterday. There’s been years of news on this. That’s an extremely poor attempt at gaslighting.

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            There’s been years of propaganda on this.

            A guy embarrasses the richest and most powerful people in the world by telling you the dirty secrets they were hiding from you. And when they tell you that it’s the messenger who’s the enemy, you believe them SMH.

            If you’re against wikileaks, you’re against the rights of journalists and you’re opposed to the freedom of information.

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              Nope. If NYT wants to publish stuff about warrantless wiretapping that’s fine. More power to them.

              WikiLeaks edited video and text content from day 1. The US Army caught them out several times by just releasing the full video. They didn’t even try with the DNC emails, they put sensational headers on them had nothing to do with what was written in the email. Then there’s the revelations of the GOP and RUS hacks which somehow have yet to see the light of day.

              So yeah after that fumbling attempt at creating propaganda it wasn’t exactly a surprise to find out the Russian GRU were essentially running the site by the mid 2010’s. Assange went beyond journalism and into foreign agent territory when he edited his stuff out of truthfulness and selectively released documents to influence American politics.

              So no you don’t get to tie him to investigative journalism like the Panama Papers.