The mother of Shani Louk, a 22-year-old German national believed to have been kidnapped by Hamas fighters during the militant group’s surprise attack on Israel on Saturday, said on Tuesday that her daughter is alive.
Louk, a tattoo artist, was attending the Tribe of Nova music festival in the plains of the Negev Desert near Urim, close to the Gaza Strip, on Saturday when Hamas fighters stormed the event. She’s believed to have been seized by the militants and paraded through the streets in the back of a pick-up.
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On Tuesday, Louk’s family announced they had proof that Louk—who grew up in Israel—was alive. German news website Blick reported that her mother said she was in a hospital in Gaza with serious head injuries.
“We now have more information that Shani is alive,” her mother told television channel NTV, adding she received the information from unnamed Palestinian sources.
The mother added that Louk is seriously injured, and asked the German government for help and quick action.
While I’m glad some good news came out of this, can we maybe focus on the 1,600 other people that are missing or died during the Hamas attack? News media has this obsession over reporting on young white females in peril.
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Reporting on brown, middle-eastern nationals? In a war in their own country? What is this woke bullshit?!
Lots of Israelis are white.
Israel is an occupying force in Palestine. It’s not “their own country,” just because they say it is and have the US military to back them up.
So she is in a Gazan Hospital. The same Gazan hospitals that Israeli bombing has now overwhelmed and whose blockade is preventing humanitarian aid from entering. Hey maybe the UN was right in calling out that a total siege is illegal.
I wanted to say: not even israel would be stupid enough to let them die of thirst… but how much crazy shit happened these last 10 years? I don’t know, I hope not…
Nah Israel is exactly that crazy. They know they have the unconditional support of the west. They had the palestinians in an open air concentration camp for decades now and have committed countless war crimes against them and no one gave a shit. At this point they could unironically put arm bands on them and start shipping them off to gas chambers and the western sycophants would sing their praises still.
And when I hear of children being killed and some beheaded, I understand the hate and fear of the monstrosity that pushes this. The human shields of innocent civilians and hostages, put in place to protect military installations, demonstrates disregard of all humanity, wrapped in rabid zealotry. The reason that extreme military tactics such as crimes against humanity were put in place was also to leave a path to peace after hostilities end. Otherwise, we sink to genocide as the only solution. Zealots ignore this, eventually forcing both sides to adopt a kill them all mentality. Humanity loses.
open air concentration camp
Not necessarily totally relevant to your point, but I keep hearing this and… what exactly do people think concentration camps are? Giant tents? Repurposed community centers?
I’m not sure I could point to one that wasn’t “open air”
Have you ever visited one of the Nazi concentration camps. Its essentially a prison, lots of barrack-ensue buildings surrounded by walls and guard towers and would have been “managed” by nazi troops.
When people say open air, I beleive they mean that its not a purpose built facility. Just miles of city that’s closed off to the outside world.
The current guy in power in Israel is a far-right nutter who wanted to subvert Democracy by removing the independence of the Judiciary.
If this young woman is alive (and who knows, as she’s become a pawn in a propaganda war, so both sets of liars along with all the unthinking tribalist parrots are pushing opposing stories) and her death is useful for propaganda purposes, expect Bibi and his ideological accomplices to choose the options that result in making sure she’s dead if they think no blame will ever end at their door.
Are you kidding?! We’re about to see human suffering on a level not seen since WW2. Netanyahu loves that this happened, because now he can indiscriminately murder and displace Palestinians without as much blowback.
The blockade is enforced by Israel and Egypt together, they share the blame for this war crime.
Nope. The raffa crossing into Egypt was open yesterday. In fact the IDF instructed people to leave via that crossing, then they bombed it today.
She looked pretty dead to me…
Swiss here, Blick is known for low quality news. This “news” is only a claim from some unknown party. Very likely inaccurate or even plain wrong.
My guess is that she “dies” in the hospital in a few days. Horrible situation.
What are the quotes for? Israel cut power to the hospital and she’s in critical care.
As in, she was probably already dead at the time the video was filmed.
He’s just trying to find ways to blame her death on Israel.
are you that naive by choice?
No I was genuinely asking because the person I was responding to put the quotes around the wrong part of the sentence.
It should have been
my guess is that she dies “in the hospital”
Where they actually put quotes implies that they don’t think she’s gonna die at all
Where they actually put quotes implies that they don’t think she’s gonna die at all
if she is already dead, then yes, she cannot die (again) at the hospital. I understand what you mean and tbh I’m not sure if there is one correct way to express it. For me at least it was very much understandable how it was originally written.
The way I understand it, by quoting the “in the hospital” you imply that the place may be elsewhere but still be in the future, since you don’t put focus on the action itself (death) which (according to the author) is something that has already happened. By quoting the “dies” you acknowledge that she is in the hospital and you are not questioning the place. You just focus on the tense “dies”, since she is already dead.
tbh I’m not sure if there is one correct way to express it.
Agreed. I still think the first example is confusing but no one want’s to hear us argue semantics. I appreciate the person I asked for coming back to clarify.
Beaten, bleeding, and unconscious looks pretty similar to being dead tbh
Did you see the video?
No, and I’ll have to take your word on it. But her mom saw it too and still seems to have hope.
Hope is the last to die especially for a mother but she had both of her legs broken (or her knees were dislocated) and she was lying motionless face down. She was also very emaciated.
I could obviously be wrong, so let’s hope for the best!
its her mother. Of course she still has hope. The parents keep hoping for their children are alive until the day they see them being buried in the ground. There are parents that are still hoping after 40 years of their child being missing if there is no body found.
However her mother has neither talked with her or even seen her in a video that for example is alive in an ICU if she can’t talk.
Hope she’s really alive, but her life will never be the same after these horrible events :(
If you care about victims of rape, don’t spread that bs about “life being over” and other disheartening quotes that make them feel like a used up rag. If she survives, it’s cause for celebration, period.
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Suggesting their life will never be the same is not equivalent to suggesting they are worthless. They didn’t say “life being over”
Victims of rape will never be the same, as they will have a very traumatic event in their history. That event is of significance, not devaluation.
I agree with the point you’re making.
her life will never be the same after these horrible events
I don’t think this is the equivalent of saying life is over. It’s saying that if Shani Louk is alive it’s good news while also acknowledging that there has still been significant grievous harm caused to this young woman.
Her not being dead is not equivalent to no harm/no foul. Hamas still has responsibility for significant harm caused to Shani Louk.
It wasn’t trying to diminish the atrocity, sorry if it came out that way. This is humanity at its lowest. I’m just happy she might still survive.
I just keep the aggressor out of my head when thinking about the victim, they don’t deserve the attention.
I guess I’m a little triggered by this specific theme, thx for the feedback.
It wasn’t trying to diminish the atrocity, sorry if it came out that way.
You did not, not to me at least.
I just keep the aggressor out of my head when thinking about the victim, they don’t deserve the attention.
That’s a great way to approach it. I was only speculating on the original commenter’s intent because that’s how I think about it too. I’ve had trauma in my past and it’s shaped who I am today; I reflect on it often. When I see stories of trauma for others I always have the thought about how their trauma is now going to shape their life going forward.
I guess I’m a little triggered by this specific theme
With good cause for sure! Harm and trauma don’t take away your agency or humanity, that happens by how others react to you after.
I’m more worried about the fact that she is very likely paralyzed to some degree and appears to have a hole in her head.
You’re the only one interpreting it like that.
Some trauma stays with you for life. No one’s calling her a “used up rag,” the reality is that she may continue to suffer from what happened for the rest of her life.
I think tt trauma of part of her head missing is more likely the concern here.
Yeah i got that later, see other response. Tldr; personal trigger sorry
Maybe edit your initial comment too? Just a suggestion
Too many answers, gotta leave for context.
Acknowledging is not perpetuating.
Agreed. Don’t let their entire life be defined by this one event.
Let’s slow the fuck up and wait for some facts to come out. An hour ago this girl was being touted as basically a martyr
German news website Blick
It’s a Swiss news website … blick.ch
edit: they fixed it
Swiss German-language news website Blick
I hope she is. The way her leg and arm looked in the video was disturbing to say the least.
The way her head looked was the disturbing part.
in a hospital in Gaza
Somebody get her somewhere safe before Israel destroys that hospital
CNN was showing video coverage of the event where armed men (festival security? IDF?) were leading festivalgoers away at the start of the Hamas attack. There also appeared to be an armoured vehicle in the background.
I can’t find the long form of the video that was shown, but the short form does show a vehicle with the Merkava’s characteristic chain and ball design on the turret in the background. It’s on CNN’s YouTube page and I’ll send it to people by request, but it’s rather graphic so I’d rather not link it.
Link please and thank you.
Link pls
Good.
This is a big doubt. “Unnamed Palestinian sources” = Hamas propagandism.
We have all seen the video where Hamas proudly showcases her mangled lifeless body.
Wishful thinking from that poor mom who is being used to turn the narrative for Hamas when they realized Shani Louk was a german citizen.
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Fyi - the EU isn’t stopping aid for Palestine, it was a comment made by an official that cannot unilaterally decide on this and other EU states are against it.
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