Palestinians mourn their relatives killed in the Israeli bombardment of the Gaza Strip, outside a morgue in Rafah, southern Gaza, Wednesday, Jan. 10, 2024. (AP Photo/Fatima Shbair)

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    10 months ago

    Who has arms deals and links with Russia ? Iran.

    Who supplies and works with hamas? Iran.

    Who would benefit most from global focus shifting? Russia.

    Hmmmmmm. I’m starting to feel like a nut.

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      It feels like alot of stuff happening in the world now ties back to Russia and its war in Ukraine, which is itself a sort of hot focal point in a broader cold war between western nations and autocratic states. There may be individual, local factors in all these conflicts that are popping up, each with their own complex histories, but it feels like these are being exploited and pushed into flare-ups to distract and divide the West. America wants to play at being the world police, so if the autocratic states increase the amount of chaos and entropy going on in the world, America and its allies can’t focus on the true threat (not to mention the Fifth column of politicians that Russia has been financing here for some time). They’re whole MO for years has been to increase chaos and entropy, and use that to take advantage of the situation or distract from something else.

      I’m guessing it doesn’t even cost Russia/Iran/China/N.Korea that much to push things into a crisis. Hamas used 3,000 fighters to attack Israel on Oct. 7 and basically stir up a hornet’s nest of regional conflict. Given how many waves of meat Russia is throwing around in Ukraine, that’s barely a blip on the radar to finance something like that, yet cause this much chaos. All you really need is dedicated individuals who’d be willing to do something like that, which wouldn’t be hard given the situation around Israel for decades.

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      This is why Hamas attacked.

      https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/21/whats-happening-with-normalising-ties-between-saudi-arabia-and-israel

      Israel and the Saudis are so tired of Iran’s shit they started working towards a peace agreement. Including the Saudis pushing for formal recognition of a Palestinian state as part of the plan.

      Instead of realizing maybe they’re the problem, Iran responds by letting their terrorist groups start back up with the hostilities.

      If Bibi wasn’t such a dumbass Zionist, much of the world would be aligned behind telling Iran to fuck off right now. But instead he’s doing exactly what Iran (and likely Russia) wanted to see happen.

      • WanderingVentra@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        Israel was never in a million years going to let Palestine have a state. They’ve made that clear for a long time.

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        Instead of realizing maybe they’re the problem, Iran responds by letting their terrorist groups start back up with the hostilities.

        They’re definitely not the problem in Palestine. They’re the only thing giving Palestinians a fighting chance.

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      No reason to feel that way. This isn’t even really a secret. Which makes the strikes on the Houthis a little stupid too because we all know it’s basically Iran by proxy that does this. And when Iran finally gets their nukes it is pretty much over because then they’re untouchable.

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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      Iran funded the construction of the tunnels Hamas uses to move and store weapons, hostages, soldiers, etc. North Korea contributed money to the tunnels as well.

      Russia, North Korea, Iran, Hamas, Islamic State, Islamic Jihad, and Mujahedeen, are anti-American besties. All of them either by funding the tunnels and weaponry, or by directly participating, are responsible for the October 7 attack in Israel.

      This is why I say it would be a derelection of office for an American president to do anything other than use this opportunity to beef up Israel’s defensive capabilities.

      Iran is coming for Israel. When, not if. Western support for Israel is the thing that holds Iran back.

      Even if the current Israeli government kills all 2.5 million Palestinians, it would be like a tiny blip on the scale of humanitarian catastrophe that would be unleashed by a hot war between Israel and Iran. Every surrounding country in the middle east, north Africa, and South Eastern Europe would see tens of millions of refugees. The world would see tens of millions of people die in that war and resulting cascade of failed states; famine disease, exposure, maybe even nuclear fallout. The world cannot abide another failed state in the middle east, let alone multiple, additional failed states.

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        If only Israel could stop massacring innocent civilians and save their weaponry for actual enemies rather than using them to create an entire generation of Palestinians with slaughtered kids or parents, ripe for recruiting by Hamas or any other Iranian backed group, that would be great.

        • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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          Blame Hamas. It is their strategy to take hostages, surround themselves with women and children to use as human shields, refuse to let them leave, and to engage and intentional martyrdom. They built the tunnels under their city, hid the shafts in schools and apartment buildings, hospitals, and did not evacuate when they were advised to. They used the tunnels, the construction of which was funded by Iran and North Korea, as an instrumentality of terrorism. Dropping bombs on every tunnel entrance–from which the October 7 attackers emerged and retreated into–is the literal definition of a proportionate response: a direct strike on the means of the aggression, on the enemy’s ability to repeat the attack.

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            Hama’s isn’t helping anybody but there’s a reason they’ve appeared, I don’t agree with anything they do but Israel kinda created this. Zionism is as much of a problem as Islamic terrorism and when the entire MO is to claim a region that somebody already lives in you’re literally asking for a response.

            • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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              Well, yeah. Zionism is idiotic, based on mysticism and superstition. Wish we had some kind of mind control space laser neurolizer or something that could free the middleeast from such hysterics. 99% of all of this is because these guys here don’t like the way these guys over here do a thing that does not affect them in any way, and also, they cannot agree on the hours of operation or whatever for various piles of rocks. Eventually, mankind will reject religion, unless religion drags us into nuclear winter first. Rocks are not life. I wish they’d understand that. I wonder what the alternate reality is like if humanity had not this ball and chain?

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            Shut the fuck up. You know why the tunnels exist? Because without them the blockade would starve out Gaza.

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        how would a hot israel-iran conflict even work? they arent neighbours with iraq, syria and jordan between them

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Attacks by Iranian-backed groups in the Middle East won’t stop until Israel’s war on Hamas in Gaza ends, Tehran’s top diplomat warned on Wednesday, as tensions across the region threaten to spiral into wider conflict.

    “If the genocide in Gaza stops, then it will lead to the end of other crises and attacks in the region,” Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria in an interview at the World Economic Forum in Davos on Wednesday.

    Houthi rebels have launched a series of attacks on commercial ships and Western military vessels in the Red Sea, a major artery for international trade.

    On Sunday, Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah said for the first time that confrontations at the Lebanon-Israel border, which have intensified in recent weeks, “would not end” before a ceasefire in Gaza.

    “The operations of our naval forces in the Red and Arabian Seas will continue to target Israeli ships linked to the enemy entity,” Hizam al-Assad, a member of the Houthi political bureau, said.

    “We call on both sides to exercise restraint, avoid actions that would lead to an escalation of tension and work together to maintain peace and stability in the region,” a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said.


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