Continuing to provide support in the form of weapons and other military equipment is the bigger issue though. This stops being the West’s fault when we stop helping Israel with their genocide
I’m sorry but did you miss Oct 7-9th? That’s the reason Israel gets weapons because the idiots next door are fine with dying as long as they can kill someone else.
Literally there isn’t any other religion or culture that does this. Isn’t that just mind blowing? No one else does this.
Everything is the fault of the US (or “west” if we’re playing that game today) from the beginning to the end of time. When they’ve already decided what the answer is, all that’s left is to force the facts to fit the narrative.
When the entire global historical narrative is framed exclusively through the lens of the “west is bad” then you remove all agency from every other country. It’s a very dangerous and disingenuous tactic of rewriting history.
The brain wash is amazing. The terrorists straight up torture and murder people and people have the balls to justify it - “they were forced to do it”. That’s some next level delusion.
Nah. You’re bringing out a math book or something? I’m an utilitarian and I agree Israel is piece of shit that should have never been brought into existence but Hamas and the whole martyrdom ideology is far FAAAR worse.
It’s one of the worst things on the planet. Objectively. No other culture is ok with dying to hurt random CIVILIANS. No other.
Just this fact alone should be enough to extinguish Hamas from the existence. Imagine what will happen when we are powerful society to the point where a few individuals can inflict massive damage (AI). Do we still allow religious martyrdom? How long do you think our society will last?
You know they’re buying them willingly for their martyrdom wars right? It’s the same disgusting propaganda argument that says we shouldn’t arm Ukraine.
I’m sorry what? This is fault of the west? Really?
Russia invades a country, middle east goes on terrorist rampage and its the west that’s starting shit? Fuck off lol
The west is certainly at fault for the Israel situation
Yes the west created the zionist movement and Islamic martyrdom /s
Maybe it’s time for the middle east to take responsibility for their disgusting religion wars.
Literally yes.
Continuing to provide support in the form of weapons and other military equipment is the bigger issue though. This stops being the West’s fault when we stop helping Israel with their genocide
I’m sorry but did you miss Oct 7-9th? That’s the reason Israel gets weapons because the idiots next door are fine with dying as long as they can kill someone else.
Literally there isn’t any other religion or culture that does this. Isn’t that just mind blowing? No one else does this.
You seem to have cause and effect backwards
The terrorists are the victims for sure! /s
It’s a 20:1 ratio. Who are the terrorists?
The guys that terrorize by their religion lol
So what led up to oct 7th and how did all the dead Palestinian children help them?
Insane cult ideology led to 7th not the west lol
Delulu af
Did I say that? But I can see you’re trolling so delulubyebye
Maybe it’s time we stopped arming everyone in the middle east
You know most of the weapons are Russian right?
We shipped them Soviet weapons back when Kissinger was still in charge, so that doesn’t surprise me.
You’re right, the best time to do it was back when it started, the second best time is right now
Who do you think created Israel?
The cult that ihabits it?
Nope, it was “given” to them by the allies after WW2, despite none of them living there or caring what happened to the people living there
Pretty sure it was created by the UN with explicit support from the Soviet Union.
Please go and at least read a Wiki of the creation of Israel.
Everything is the fault of the US (or “west” if we’re playing that game today) from the beginning to the end of time. When they’ve already decided what the answer is, all that’s left is to force the facts to fit the narrative.
When the entire global historical narrative is framed exclusively through the lens of the “west is bad” then you remove all agency from every other country. It’s a very dangerous and disingenuous tactic of rewriting history.
The brain wash is amazing. The terrorists straight up torture and murder people and people have the balls to justify it - “they were forced to do it”. That’s some next level delusion.
Israel tortures and murders far more than Hamas ever has. It’s not even remotely close.
Nah. You’re bringing out a math book or something? I’m an utilitarian and I agree Israel is piece of shit that should have never been brought into existence but Hamas and the whole martyrdom ideology is far FAAAR worse.
It’s one of the worst things on the planet. Objectively. No other culture is ok with dying to hurt random CIVILIANS. No other.
Just this fact alone should be enough to extinguish Hamas from the existence. Imagine what will happen when we are powerful society to the point where a few individuals can inflict massive damage (AI). Do we still allow religious martyrdom? How long do you think our society will last?
People are so fucking lost in this thread.
Just to get it out of the way fuck Hamas.
If no one else it’s OK with it, where did all of the dead children in Gaza come from?
If we were anywhere near as bad as they pretend, they’d be exporting radioactive glass instead of bullshit and finger-pointing.
How about we just stop flooding the Middle East with weapons?
Only if Russia and Iran agree and do it simultaneously.
Iran is part of the Middle East
You know they’re buying them willingly for their martyrdom wars right? It’s the same disgusting propaganda argument that says we shouldn’t arm Ukraine.