Rights advocates in the United States are urging President Joe Biden to end his administration’s “complicity” in Israeli rights abuses after key members of Israel’s government backed the idea of pushing Palestinians out of Gaza.

Far-right Israeli ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich said this week that Israel should “encourage emigration” from the coastal enclave, home to an estimated 2.3 million Palestinians.

“If there are 100,000 or 200,000 Arabs in Gaza and not two million Arabs, the entire discussion on the day after [the war ends] will be totally different,” Smotrich said on Sunday, calling for the “voluntary migration” of Palestinians.

A day later, Ben-Gvir, who oversees national security, made a similar appeal, saying it was “a correct, just, moral and humane solution”, Israeli media outlets reported.

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    But this is fine because Trump would send them even faster and make the children even more dead. All hail the glorious two party system.

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        This is honestly what defeating an insurrection should feel like. Comparing obvious differences in administration and policy. Yep, i only see escalation and incitement on the alternative side of the coin. ““Set up nukes outside of Iran?”” yeah we dodged a huge bullet.

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      Were you asleep from 2015 to 2020? He’d definitely be at least as bad on this issue, and vastly worse on every other one.

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      Source? Last I heard, trump got us OUT of a war that Biden oversaw the continuance of for 8 years. How is trump somehow a warmonger now? Is there a potential grift available for him to do or something?

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        This is just something “Vote blue no matter who” types imply when they talk about this. I wasn’t actually making this point as such.

        trump got us OUT of a war that Biden oversaw the continuance of for 8 years

        Lol how did that go?

        For this issue, there’s the stuff he did during his term as mentioned above, and as usual quoting him is enough:

        “So you have a war that’s going on, and you’re probably going to have to let this play out,” Trump told Univision. “You’re probably going to have to let it play out because a lot of people are dying.”

        “There is no hatred like the Palestinian hatred of Israel and Jewish people. And probably the other way around also, I don’t know. You know, it’s not as obvious, but probably that’s it too. So sometimes you have to let things play out and you have to see where it ends,” he added, calling what was taking place in Gaza “unbelievable.”

        So you’re right. Since a lot of people are dying he thinks we should “let it play out,” and also incidentally said he wouldn’t allow Gazan refugees in the US and previously released a “peace plan” that matched Netanyahu’s.

        So my source is the continued, ill-considered and idiotic behaviour of this egotistical man child and the words that spew from his mouth on a daily basis. The fact that this is the best the republicans can do is truly embarrassing

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          I have no illusions as to him being a good president. But the Israel issue is significant enough that he’s worth it. And literally just saying he would stop interfering in it makes him a MAJOR upgrade over the current genocider-in-chief.

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            Stop interfering = let the genocide continue. So no I wouldn’t call it a major upgrade even on this issue. It’s going from being the guy cheering for the bully to one silently standing by as he stomps on a defenceless victim’s head.

            And for every other issue Trump is anywhere from embarrassingly stupid to outright scary. Much worse than Biden.

            The problem is the two party system, because both of these options are ultimately fucking dog shit.

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              I am perfectly fine with my country doing nothing more than providing military support only as requested by the rest of the UN, and otherwise doing nothing. Ideally that would be America’s role in every armed conflict. The reason they’re even able to do a genocide is having American backup and weapons. End that and the genocide is over. Iran could flatten Israel in a day if Israel didn’t have the threat of the US military behind them.

              There is no other issue. America is helping to commit a genocide. Tax rates, or hell even attempted coups, mean nothing in comparison.

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                Yeah fair enough. I feel like they could still do a lot of damage if the US ended support, but I totally get your perspective and kind of agree actually.

                America sliding into fascism is not quite worth it for me though, especially because I don’t trust Trump to remain consistent on this issue either. Biden needs to be forcefully pushed to change tack, I guess by the poll numbers and internal protests

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                  There is nothing we can do to make Biden stop supporting genocide other than vote him out. Yeah trump might also do it, but he didn’t the first time. And certainly the guy who might is better than the guy who definitely will.

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        The Doha accords were a gift to the Taliban, they knew the US wanted out, Trump said we wanted out, and he set the stage for an untenable self-governance in Afghanistan

        Biden deserves plenty of blame for how the inevitable went down and not ensuring interpreters/collaborators were evacuated , but Trump absolutely set up the fall of Afghanistan. The Afghan papers made clear the ANA were not a viable force, but Biden should have had contingencies ready