• avater@lemmy.world
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    He is refering to the Israeli evidence given. Which is still dumb as fuck…

    you know that the initial claim was straight from the Hamas itself, right?

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      If you’re saying Hamas said that Hamas blew up their own hospital in Gaza…

      No, I haven’t heard that and I’m going to need an actual source saying that. And Israel’s government doesn’t count because obviously they’re not a reliable source.

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        Man, you can really tell who hasn’t engaged with the matter aside from headlines.

        Not even Israel claims that it was Hamas who fired the rocket. You would know that, if you would have spend just a little bit of your time actually reading articles instead of just commenting under them.

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          I know what happened.

          I just dont know what nonsense Israel and their defenders are claiming these days.

          You never know what someone’s opinion is by going off what facts are.

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        If you’re saying Hamas said that Hamas blew up their own hospital in Gaza…No, I haven’t heard that and I’m going to need an actual source saying that.

        The initial claim was that Israel did blew up the hospital and this claim was made by the Hamas Ministry of Health itself.

        The number of people killed in the strike on the al-Ahli Arab Baptist Hospital has risen to at least 500, according to the Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza. https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hamas-war-latest-updates-gaza-sky-news-live-blog-12978800?postid=6592711#liveblog-body

        Gaza’s Ministry of Health says at least 500 people were killed and injured. Both agencies are under the militant Islamist Hamas-led government. https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/asien/israel-hamas-krankenhaus-100.html (German News station)

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            So yeah, if something gets blown up in Gaza, who else is likely responsible?

            The Hamas or some other terror group appareantly. Are you even reading what this is about here? Your lack of knowledge is a little bit embarrassing. Current evidence is showing that a mislead rocket by some jihad group hit the hospital and not the Israel military.

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              Current evidence

              What evidence?

              Israel claiming they didn’t do it?

              They lie about this stuff constantly so why would anyone believe them?

              Israel is bombing Gaza indiscriminately, if something blows up in Gaza, I’m going to need actual evidence it wasn’t Israel, not just Israel claiming they have evidence it wasn’t them

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                  The group cited several clips believed to be of the explosion from different sources and claimed the “geolocation and timing of the footage is conclusive”. However, they said their conclusions are not “proven fact”.

                  “That doesn’t mean that they are THE truth, just what we think is highly likely based on our geolocations(facts) and logic/reason,” they wrote on Twitter.

                  “We are geolocators, not official investigators… To be sure what really happened, different official investigations are needed.”

                  Israel and the US have a lot more information and video…

                  Hamas and “independent investigators” don’t have that technology.

                  If there was proof it wasnt Israel, we’d all have seen it by now.

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                They lie about this stuff constantly so why would anyone believe them?

                But you do believe a ministry which is led by a terror group? Okay. I for myself will make my conclusion when the evidence is verified by different, independent sources. For now I dont believe any of them and it could be done by either of them.

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                  you are talking to someone so far int he deep end. i doubt its really worth engaging, judging by how they are responding everywhere.

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            Pretty disgusting to joke about this shit like that.

            The evidence seems to suggest that it was not Israel. But I am sure you will provide better evidence instead of just malding on the internet, correct?

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              “The evidence” that Israel won’t release and shows they didn’t blow up the hospital in the area they’ve been bombing?

              I’m gonna need to see the evidence because Israel repeatedly lies about this stuff.

              I’m just going in circles here, what don’t you understand?