The Israeli rescue service Zaka says its paramedics removed more than 260 bodies from a music festival that came under attack by Hamas militants.
The total figure of bodies found is expected to be higher, as other paramedic teams were also working in the area and Zaka added that the bodies “haven’t all been collected yet”.
Early on Saturday morning, Hamas targeted Nova music festival, a techno rave in the desert near the border with Gaza.
Videos shared on social media and by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival-goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled.
The last election was 2006, was obstructed by Israel, and while Hamas won, they only had 44% of the vote. It’s also not surprising that Palestinians would vote for the group they thought had the best chance of standing up to Israel, even if they may disagree with Hamas otherwise.
So even in the midst of horrific oppression, a majority of Palestinians DID NOT vote for Hamas, despite their oppression at the hands of the Israeli govt. To me that says a WHOLE LOTTA “not everyone agrees with Hamas”.
Source for your racist ass since you said more racist BS without a source and can’t be assed to look up basic details when ur racism and blind hatred of religion is involved (bigot).
There isn’t a proper government of Palestine because of Israeli oppression, numbskull.
Nope, try again. EVERY SINGLE COMMENT you try to put words in my mouth and associate me with ideas I do not agree with. Your argument is so fucking idiotic that you have to resort to that to have a reply other than “yakno ur right, my hate for religion is blinding me to human rights and causing me to say racist things, and I need to go educate my ignorant ass before continuing to speak”.
Why would you even think that’d be something I say when I so clearly do the opposite when discussing other countries? Why would it make sense for me to lump 400million people, spread across a vast geographic area, with differing histories, local issues, religions, ways of life, etc. together? What thought process led you to such a stupid fucking claim?
Also, unlike you, I haven’t displayed a tendency to hold double standards. You’ve been the one lumping countries and people groups together this entire conversation, but now you wanna get upset that you think I lump everyone in a country together? Talk about COGNITIVE DISSONANCE.
Quote me where I said that, straw man. (that’s ur name from now on, since you can only argue against strawman arguments)
Ur a fuckin racist, which has been demonstrated in every single comment of yours. You ignore most of my arguments because you have no response. Your responses are filled with strawman arguments, ignoring facts, false equivalencies, and unhinged hatred of religion which clouds your ability to think critically or be empathetic towards people who are being oppressed and suffering human rights abuses. Get over yourself, self-righteous bigot.
Take the fucking L and stop embarrassing yourself. It’s really painful tbh watching you humiliate yourself like this. You got a humiliation fetish or something?
I’d rather watch you try to keep convincing yourself that everyone else is a hateful ass and you are the only one who understands Israel / Palestine, and its such an easy conflict to solve if we’d all just admit Palestinians are the ultimate victims… and … what? kick Israel out of the middle east? I don’t think I’ve heard your solution.
TO summarize: When they had power and they chose to make a 2 tiered society: that was long ago - they can’t be blamed for that.
When Palestine thought they had enough power to get rid of Israel, and they tried to do it in a war they lost - they can’t be blamed for that. Those were ‘colonizers’ they were trying to kill.
When they elected Hamas and attacked Israel, they can’t be blamed for that because they were frustrated at their lack of power.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Nope, just you actually.
Nope, lots of people (who have actually educated themselves) understand it. You just let your bigotry get in the way of doing so.
Ending the apartheid of Palestinians is necessary before anything else. That is what my comments have focused on this entire discussion, aside from cleaning up the vomit of misinformation you insist on spewing. Anything past ending apartheid is part of a process that would need to involve all people currently living in Palestine/Israel, and would almost certainly involve some kind of intermediary party.
That’s because it’s not my place to offer that, and me suggesting a solution would be meaningless. I do think it would probably have to involve either a 2-state solution where Palestine is given assistance to rebuild, or a carefully constructed single state where the rights of all citizens are protected. But again, that’s just like “yeah I think these are probably the most likely general ways that peace could be found there”, I’m not making suggestions or even saying those are the most likely, I just think they may be based on my understanding of things.
I’m just trying to help inform and to combat blind hatred, misinformation, and bigotry spewed by you. That’s it.
Yup, pretty much.
To summarize (without trying to paint Palestinians as evil brown people):
>Can’t point to a single double standard of mine, just has to pretend like it’s laughable
Keep trying. I enjoy seeing bigots squirm.
So you have no solution, but just want everyone to pretend these people can get along in the meantime, and anyone who says otherwise is a bigot. Despite a long history of violence showing they cannot get along. I get it. It’s the typical neo-liberal view of the world. ‘All religions and lifestyles can coexist if we put on enough blinders’. (and subjugate people hard enough under capitalism)
You probably scream FREE PALESTINE every chance you get, but have no idea what that even means, and have no answers for Israeli citizens safety if the walls fell down tomorrow.
I like how people on your side drop APARTHEID STATE into the conversation as if its the ultimate nuke, and then people on the other side drop SUPPORTING TERRORISTS KILLING BABIES into the conversation to nuke back. Both self-righteous as fuck about your own losses and ignorant (or secretly happy about) of the other sides losses. So I guess you’re the ‘SUPPORTING TERRORISTS KILLING BABIES’ type then if we are sticking to the black/white script?
At least you admit you infantilize Palestinians to the point where you no longer believe they have agency. Nothing they do is their fault. Do you stick with that line when you see a Palestine immigrant involved in violence abroad?
edit: in case you’re wondering why Im not bothering to cite your hypocrisy to you - I don’t care whether you see evidence you’re a hypocrite. I’m more interested in unwinding the belief system that allows you to hatefully attack me as a racist bigot for days for pointing out that religious fundamentalist groups beget awful violence everywhere they go, but love and steadfastly defend Palestine as innocent victims.
And yeah, I guess if you think they are essentially babies without agency, it makes sense. You see me as an adult with choices, and i’ve chosen to turn away from helping religious fundamentalists (and you’re mad I even say that most Palestinians are religious fundamentalists! even though that seems to be what evidence suggests … but again ‘nothing they do is their fault!’).
You see yourself as loving and me as hateful. But I dunno. Im betting if you heard I got my brains beat in by a Palestinian for expressing these views openly, you’d feel happy. Tell me Im wrong. The most you’d feel is ‘well, the Palestinian couldn’t have helped it, their history made them this way’. Some might say you are practicing benevolent racism.