As organizations are looking to reclaim their digital sovereignty, IONOS and Nextcloud are building the fully featured office suite “Nextcloud Workspace”: a powerful Microsoft 365 alternative. As long-standing partners, we have the expertise to enable large companies and organizations with an all-round office suite as European answer to US products. Announced at the Nextcloud Summit earlier this month, this collaboration for digitally sovereign office software that meets the highest data protection requirements will launch in 2025.
To meet the rigorous needs of public institutions and enterprises, Nextcloud Workspace will integrate a full range of collaboration tools, including file storage and sharing, document editing, email, calendaring, video conferencing, chat, and AI-powered productivity features. Of course, this offering will be fully GDPR compliant and securely hosted in Europe.
Organizations can trust Nextcloud to deliver a fully integrated office and collaboration suite, thanks to the company’s experience in creating the world’s leading private cloud platform. IONOS, Europe’s largest cloud and hosting provider, is the ideal partner to ensure full GDPR compliance and protection from US legal exposure. Hosting will be managed exclusively in Germany, at IONOS’ extensive network of data centers.
Oh shit
This will undoubtedly have a major impact against Microsoft and even perhaps Google.
AI-powered productivity features.
Everything is pretty sweet except ^the AI productivity features. Hopefully the AI portions are optional opt-ins rather than it being preincluded opt-outs.
No. Anytime who has actually done MSP work understand that most businesses are not purchasing office. They are purchasing a compliance and technology and identity control plane that has just about every add on a business needs.
Personal office use has always been a nice secondary.
MSP?
Managed service provider. Basically corporate IT.
The other person is correct. Managed service provider. The folks running the SaaS, Hardware and sometimes compliance.
Search your heart. You know what it’ll be.
I don’t even have to search. I already know it’ll be preinstalled/hidden opt-out based on current tech industry trends :/
I’d usually say that “I’m hoping for the best, prepared for the worst” but honestly at this point I think I have 0 hope, and I’m only prepared for the worst.
Thats from the current nextcloud docs:
We strive to bring Artificial Intelligence features to Nextcloud. This section highlights these features, how they work and where to find them. All of these features are completely optional. If you want to have them on your server, you need install them via separate Nextcloud Apps.
I’ll sleep much better because of this, thanks again!
I wish I could upvote you twice but you have my thanks🤗❤️
Goddamn✊💪💪💪
The one time I’m super thankful to be wrong🙏
Thanks!🤗What a breath of fucking fresh air finally🤌✨
It’s all just part of their addons, so you choose yourself if you want AI. You can even choose to have local AI, if you don’t want to use an external AI, which I believe is ChatGPT.
I actually want AI on my Nextcloud. As long as it runs locally. We’ve taken thousands of pictures over the years and desperately need some help in categorising them. Unfortunately so far I wasn’t able to find any reliable way to automate it.
Have you tried hiring a couple humans? They’re much better than AI. And you help your local (physical or virtual) economy!
Yes, I love giving other people access to my private pictures I explicitly don’t host on Google, Dropbox or other external clouds. I usually pay them from the hoard of gold that’s stashed away under my bed.
Have you tried Immich? It runs local and is open source. I haven’t yet but was planning to soon as I have the same struggle
Yeah, trouble is that it doesn’t really work well with Nextcloud together so I would have to migrate all of my devices.
And in the end it doesn’t work much better than NC.
I have a nextcloud instance and I can confirm that the ai features are plugins, and are opt-in (and also pretty cool, as ai feature go)
It would be nice if they could offer alternatives for individuals with prices comparable to those of Hetzner Storage Share (which is based on NC). Somewhat, I feel every other NC hosting solution is way more expensive per GB.
Hey, I had been searching for a reasonably priced NC hosting for a while. I even considered a VPS from Hetzner but somehow didn’t find this. Thanks for pointing it out.
The Hetzner Storage Share lacks a lot of features that Nextcloud IONOS have. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think Hetzner has an office suite for Nextcloud?
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Kinda sounds awful honestly.
I do use nextcloud for my small team. It’s the best of the selfhosted file sync platforms.
That said, it’s obscenely over engineered.
Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?
Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?
Most O365 & exchange users? If you just want file sync, this isn’t for you. If you want a collaborative (online) office suite that can also sync files, it is. It’s meant to be able to replace the whole O365 stack, which includes Outlook.
You can also just not use that part, or any part you don’t need. This is basic NC functionality that has been there for a very long time, so why shouldn’t it be part of the package?
Sure that’s why I drive my 4wd anywhere i want to go - i don’t want or need 4wd but I can just not use that functionality.
Sorry what office suite is basic NC functionality that has been there for a long time?
you can delete the calendaring and contacts apps
Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?
“Who ever wanted standard features from office 365 from their office 365 competitor”
Nextcloud isn’t a 365 competitor?
It’s filesync with contacts and calendar.
Even once you build in documents and spreadsheets, 365 at least has separate applications for that - its not a single overblown behemoth.
Nextcloud isn’t a 365 competitor?
You’re in a thread about it being used as one, so that argument is worthless.
I use Nextcloud for contacts, calendars, files, bookmarks, passwords, to do lists, Kanban boards, and recipies. You absolutely can turn nextcloud into a 365 competitor if that’s your jam
Those are add-ons.
Besides which, o365 is not a single self hosted php behemoth.
I’m loathe to extoll the virtues of 365. I don’t use it and never will.
Please tell me they’re not writing it in php.
Nah, it’ll be CGI.
I might be wrong, but it sounds like hosted nextcloud, not a completely new platform.
Owncloud infinite scale seems, well, much more scalable
It’s an alternative, but IONOS honestly fucking sucks as well, so I’m feeling pretty ambivalent about this.
Intentional BSOD-coloured branding?
I’ve moved away from Nextcloud
It is such a pain to maintain and is way complicated
Is this just hosted nextcloud with collabora office pre installed?
I’m wondering what will happen to openXchange which ionos is using currently and is afaik also holding parts of. It does exactly the same.
