China’s foreign minister said Saturday that Israel has gone too far in responding to last week’s invasion by Hamas, China’s official news agency reported.

Speaking to Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Israel’s actions have extended beyond self-defense.

According to Xinhua, China has an interest in helping resolve the conflict and the underlying issues involving the Palestinian population.

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    The jan 6th rioters mostly didnt use weapons at all, but the ones carrying used open market sold firearms. Not military issued and grade weaponry.

    Ill be honest, I dont think you know what BLM even was. You keep bringing it up like its even remotely on topic. Do you watch a lot of fox news?

    Let me spell it out for you. Ill keep it simple. Read slowly, and sound out the words.

    China makes their own weaponry. Their weapons, like all weapons, leave specific patterns of damage and debris. Every nation has heavily studied these weaponry patterns, and can easily determine what weapons could and couldnt cause a given type of damage.

    China doesnt sell its weapons to the people, and really never has. The public chinese gun market was mostly foreign made, and chinese weapons were mostly used for self arming or selling to other nations. There are a lot of political reasons for that, but they dont matter for this. The end result was foreign guns in the peoples hands, and state made guns in state sponsored hands.

    What this means is any evidence of non chinese weaponry would prove actions of terrorists. Any evidence. Left behind guns, bombs, grenades, any bullet casings, any identifying fragments of weaponry, specific destructive patterns, literally anything.

    Even a single non chinese bullet dug out of a wall would prove china right, because chinese military would never have those bullets.

    China has nothing to show. Despite how easy it would be to find any type of this evidence.

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      Right so ignoring your ignorance I will repeat, people use weapons they create. The Chinese used Chinese weapons. And I’d love you to explain how to differentiate the casings of a Russian SKS and a Chinese made one. Or a markarov. Oh wait, they’re exactly the same. And that was the primary weapons for both the civilians and the military at that time. Well damn, I guess your just wrong

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        … Are you claiming that people only use guns they handcraft? And not purchase? Because the chinese public gun market from 1870 to the massacre was almost exclusively foreign models.

        You tell the difference based on manufacturer differences. They burn and bend the casings differently. You can id which factory an SKS came from via that. Same thing for bullets, you can tell exactly which gun fired a bullet based on the damage done to the bullet by the chamber. Thats how cops can id which gun was used at the scene of a crime.

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          Wait wait wait, you think they handcraft SKS? Also, you clearly don’t understand forensics. The only way they can match is if they have the gun. You can’t match based on the bullet or casing alone.

          *Edit: Here’s a document on how forensics works.

          https://www.nist.gov/firearms-and-toolmarks#:~:text=What is forensic ballistics%3F,marks are like ballistic fingerprints.

          Key point:

          If investigators recover bullets from a crime scene, forensic examiners can test-fire a suspect’s gun

          They need the suspect’s gun to identify.

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            You said they handcraft them, dunce. Im mocking you for that.

            You need the gun to match the specific gun to its specific bullet. You can still id model and company of origin, often down to the factory via batching defects.

            A bullet or its casing would tell you what kind of gun it was, and who made it. Proof of russian made SKS, for example, would show that non military combatants were present.

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              I didn’t say anyone handcrafted anything. I said you can’t tell the difference between a Russian SKS and a Chinese one. You’re the weird one talking about handcrafting.

              Also, no you can’t tell the difference forensically from a Russian vs Chinese SKS unless you had the gun. They were literally made with the same tools. But you don’t know that do you?

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                I will repeat, people use weapons they create.

                Ok dunce, your comments are right there.

                If they were made in the same factory, you mean? Its the same concept as forensicall bullet to barrel matching. You are matching the casing to known micro defects of the regions manufacture.

                Different manufacturers use different materials for the barrel, or chamber, etc which alters how the bullet or casing is dented, burned, etc. Theres also some minor stylistic differences which result in the same thing. AK47s from russia in the 60s jam a lot, for example, way more than is normal. Something was wrong with a template, and the error wasnt caught for a while.

                This forensics was used in the middle east under bush to id who had participated in different fire fights, because different groups were supplied from different sources. If you know only the taliban has access to russian made weaponry, for example, you can use that to id where they were involved.

                Your handler should have told you all this, very embarassing.

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                  Nothing you said is correct. I literally sent you a document that explains how it works. Your ignorance is astounding.

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                    No you didnt, you sent a link to a 2 paragraph article-ette detailing how cops apply the science to match a gun to a crime scene.

                    Thats just how local cops use it, not the only way to study post firing remnants. Cops dont need to know which militaristic force robbed your cousin, just if his personal gun was at the crime.

                    This is like if you posted a mini blurb on how to collect rain water in your backyard as proof that the water cycle doesnt create fog.

                    Ask your handler. Im sure he can explain this to you using pictures with bright colors.

                    E: I actually went looking through that site, and while its not public access they go into some detail about how they are literally creating a database of gun type forensics. Literally exactly what I am talking about, down to gun year and difficulties vs obvious tells for specific models.