China’s foreign minister said Saturday that Israel has gone too far in responding to last week’s invasion by Hamas, China’s official news agency reported.

Speaking to Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Israel’s actions have extended beyond self-defense.

According to Xinhua, China has an interest in helping resolve the conflict and the underlying issues involving the Palestinian population.

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    He’s not wrong. But it’s worth remembering that when China faced a far smaller provocation from their own restive Muslims, in Xinjiang, they responded by locking up a large fraction of the population in vast reeducation camps…

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      Not saying that’s right, but at least they didn’t bomb the camps…

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        I think if they felt the need to they would have. China and Israel’s government both place about the same value on the lives of people who get in their way, China is just a lot more self conscious about its international image.

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          This is a stupid take. 70 years has passed since China’s last military attack on a nation. 70 years. But sure, let’s ignore history and view things from our fee fees.

          China may be oppressive against those in its nation. But it’s proven from decades of peace to not do anything like what you are saying.

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            Where in my comment did I talk about their willingness to attack other countries? I said they didn’t value the lives of people who get in their way, like the pro-democracy student protesters they massacred in 1989, or the Uyghurs they’ve been enslaving/brutalizing/killing in concentration camps more recently.

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              There’s no evidence of killing. The UN even visited and stated they did not believe China was engaged in mass killing. So no, nothing like what Israel is doing.

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                Plenty of circumstantial evidence of killing (e.g. missing people), and when there’s been documented imprisonment forced labor and forced sterilizations, the fact that they don’t say “… and then we kill them” in any written documents the UN can get their hands on and just rely on their guards to know what to do really doesn’t matter

                Both countries want to exterminate people who challenge their aims, China’s just got a slightly more controlled environment to do it in

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                  Right right, killing thousands is comparable to circumstantial evidence. Do you hear yourself?

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                    killing thousands is comparable to circumstantial evidence of thousands of killings that there would be more direct evidence of if China didn’t have such a good environment for destroying that evidence

                    Yes, I do think these things are comparable, that is what I have been saying for several comments now

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            So the sino-indian war was in 62, but they’ve been salami slicing in indian aksai chin the past decade, and this is acknowledged by outside observers.

            China isn’t just brutal to its own people.

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              So please tell me what country has China violently attacked in the last few decades to:

              I think if they felt the need to they would have.

              Just once.

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                Country? The example was that china also willingly abuses and kills minority groups it has power over when convenient.

                Do you need to be reminded of the many different minority groups china played “israeli genocide” with? Just because palestine is technically still a government doesnt change how israel, and the rest of the planet, treat them as a functional subdivision of israel.

                Get your head on straight bud

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                  Actually, the post above mentions those people were sent to camps and not killed. In fact, there’s still no evidence of any deaths, just conjecture. The UN even visited and stated that while they don’t believe there is killing happening that it still constitutes as human rights violations. So no, China hasn’t

                  Do you need to be reminded of the many different minority groups china played “israeli genocide” with?

                  Personally, I believe the UN over conspiracy theorists like yourself.

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                    The UN visited and said china’s actions were crimes against humanity but pulled back from using the word genocide out of caution. That is not the same as saying they “they don’t believe there is killing happening”.

                    wikipedia/Uyghur Genocide

                    Also the only reason China hasn’t had a deeper probe into the situation is it keeps getting downvoted at the UN Human Rights Council, guess who is voting against it? Qatar, Indonesia, the United Arab Emirates and Pakistan citing the risk of “alienating China”.

                    Reuters

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                    Pretty sure I alluded to multiple suppressions of minority rights, so Im not sure how the UN checked multiple time periods within a single visit, but woe to a lowly conspiracy theorist like me to question your claims of UN time travel.

                    Hey, just to double check. You wanna keep defending china with shit like “it was only multiple human rights violations”? Or did you want to start acting like a human being again?

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                You act like i have any respect for Tankies or care for what you think.

                You guys are even worse than us Americans, at least some of us fight back against the atrocities we commit.

                You guys refuse to believe that your side has done horrible things too.

                You’ll feel better when you admit that, then you won’t feel the need to defend every choice your leaders make.

                You are the world’s biggest hypocrites, other than maybe the Israelis with their whole evacuation convoy bombing.

                You and Israel would probably get along great, what with the unbridled hatred of minorities.

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                  I fully admitted multiple times in this conversation alone that china has done bad things. So now I know you don’t know how to read.

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                  That’s both one of the stupidest and dangerous things I’ve seen someone say. In my opinion, you qualified yourself for your own comment.

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                    Then it seems we have achieved a paradox…

                    I just believe that there needs to be a ruling class of people to guide us simpletons since we’re too stupid to be trusted with a slight grip of power.

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                  Yeah particularly those like yourself that wants to silence people. Absolutely should get no say.

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            It’s been 44 years since their war with Vietnam. It’s been 11 since they were involved in Mali as part of a multi-state force.

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                  No it’s not. I said 70 years since they attacked. What you’re talking about is China’s slow retreat out of Vietnam. That would be like arguing that USA invaded Afghanistan last year.