right now I’m trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.
i need it to be remotely controllable, it’d be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?
I’ve dabbled with the “____sonic” ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.
just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!
thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.
(oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)
I use Jellyfin with FinAmp for Android. Even supports offline caching.
Navidrome server, symfonium on android is amazing. I also use maloja and multi-scrobbler to caoture plays from multiple sources and keep a in-house record of my plays.
Symfonium looks amazing except for the part where you need a google play account to use it. It literally has every feature I’ve been looking for.
There is a way without Google Play outlined here: https://support.symfonium.app/t/how-can-i-pay-for-symfonium-without-google-play/1290/2
I’ve found Tempo to be one of the better alternatives you can find on f-droid
I use it and like its UI but it doesn’t properly support offline, you can just download single tracks. By proper offline support I mean something like Audinaut, which unfortunately doesn’t work in new Android versions
Just use AuroraStore to avoid google play account. You can even pay the Symfonium creator through a hacky workarround and get your full access without Google Play.
That’s an official way you can read it on Symfoniums forum somwhere !
ewwww really? not even Aurora store
Navidrome + Amperfy gang unite!
My use case: collection based on single-flac + cuesheets, thousands, many of which are HD. Setup: all the music is in an NFS share in my HTPC, which also runs Kodi (flatpak) for both video and audio media. That machine is connected to my main audio setup via USB DAC.
The Kodi music DB is hosted externally in mariaDB in the same server. I use 2 headless Kodi (OSMC) clients with HiFiBerry DACs as streamers around the house, using the same DB/media. Lastly I also have an Nvidia Shield running Kodi also exposing the same collection/DB.
Over the years I have tested many alternatives, including navidrome, volumio, and others, but they all struggle handling my music collection, choke processing cuesheets or don’t even support them, or can’t handle NFS reliably or at all, or can’t process 24 bit content etc.
I couldn’t find any solution nearly as reliable, performant or flexible as this one. I use this setup pretty much daily. With incremental improvements, it’s been running for more than 10 years.
Each Kodi client can be managed via its web interface (a little dated but fully functional and reliable), amd via Android app (I use Yatse).
The main server also exposes the music collection via DLNA.
I looked at jellyfin/Plex in the past as well but for muy use case, it’s over-complicated and didn’t add value.
i do love me some Kodi/libreELEC!
how hard is it to stand up a headless kodi? this would still work with jellyfin with addon, but it might be REALLY FUN to install a kodi addon with no screen
also i am having trouble hunting down what cuesheets means in this context?
also i am having trouble hunting down what cuesheets means in this context?
When you rip an audio CD you can either create one file for each track or you can rip the entire CD as one track and create a cue sheet file which is basically a text file describing where each track starts in that single audio file. This can be useful to have an exact copy of the CD without adding unintended gaps between tracks. It is primarily useful if you intend on recreating the actual audio CD at a later time from the ripped data. Most people don’t need this.
ooolala TIL! thanks!
For doing Kodi GUI setup changes in a headless setup in the RPis remotely, I use a VNC server installed in them that I start on-demand (when needed), e.g dispmanx. Needing this is a once-in-a-few-years type event, but yes you need this installed just in case.
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All my music is stored in a folder on my NAS, broken down by artist, release. It can be accessed via SMB, SFTP, Jellyfin and Plex. From there I stream to what ever device I’m using. Wireguard, Tailscale or Plex is required to stream outside my home. Navidrome sounds interesting.
I’m a very satisfied #jellyfin user. I have my music and movie files shared there. I use different clients: a rpi 5 with kodi and jellydin plugin; an old RPI B with volumio; in android, finamp and also share with dlna.
+1 for Volumio! I didn’t know it can use Jellyfin as a media source. To be fair, I just started using Jellyfin and didn’t want to migrate everything to it until being sure it will stay. So far it’s looking very good though.
Yes. There is a plugin to use jellyfin as a source in volumio. It’s the best.
I just keep all of my music in an NFS share on my NAS and play it with Rhythmbox or VLC. I keep a compressed copy on the SD card in my phone to listen to when I’m not home.
Plex Server + Plexamp.
https://biggaybunny.tumblr.com/post/166787080920/tech-enthusiasts-everything-in-my-house-is-wired
I just have a bunch of media files (.ogg, .mp3, etc.) in directories and play them with mplayer from the command line. Playlist = shell script that plays some group of files. I use old school track numbering (01-whatever, 02-whatsit, etc.) though, so most of the time “mplayer *” is how I play an album and the tracks play automatically in the right order. I don’t understand the purpose of anything fancier. Now get off my lawn.
I host my media on a bookshelf and play it through a stereo
@solrize @SidewaysHighways @selfhosted this is a sad, boomer take, is not even funny.
I just don’t get it, I’ve seen people struggle with itunes, that stuff is way too complicated and I don’t see any need for it. Maybe I’m missing something but if I want to play some music and it’s in a file, saying “play this file” seems about as direct as it gets.
@solrize @selfhosted assuming you have the file in the same machine you want to listen to it, and you are the only one who wants to access it, sure that is fine
Sometimes they are on a remote server that I sshfs mount and play the same way. Multiple people could use the server at the same time if desired, though for me it hasn’t been an issue. It’s audio, I don’t need a visual UI for it. I still have a fair amount of physical media too including LP’s, though my record player is long gone.
Anyway, be happy that I didn’t mention FORTH :).
Navidrome, Feishin, Tempo.
I just use syncthing to copy music to my phone sd card.
ooo! what is the new syncthing hotness for Android? i enjoy it on the (linux) gaming PC’s but I’ve been wanting that for savestates and memory cards on my phone too!
Syncthing-fork on f-droid.
Mpd + a frontend of your choosing, I prefer ncmpcpp, will run on just about anything and is remotely controlled through apps or ssh. Mpd is great when the server is physically connected to the audio output device. I use it to remotely control a speaker connected server that can also run Plex (because I prefer plexamp for streaming and syncing to my phone, other android devices, and smart speakers). They both look at the same directory of a collection near 30 years in the making with hundreds of thousands of files and a wide array of formats.
Plex and Plexamp. I know the dislike for Plex here, but it works for me and Plexamp is a fantastic piece of kit which, in opinion is worth the lifetime sub alone.
Plexamp is mind blowingly good. Great UX. Perfect legibility. No discovery/ads up in your face. Just you listening to your music how you like it. Streaming is ROCK SOLID. Downloads work flawlessly. It just relies on proper metadata in Plex.
I was going to try to host my music on Jellyfin, but I had an issue.
Since 2005 I’ve been curating my music collection with my old iPod that I still use.
I like my albums in release order so, with the iPod in mind, probably 80% of them are named [year] - [album]
Lidarr and Jellyfin won’t find them because of this and I don’t want to manually sort through 2000-some albums.
So I still use my iPod (20 years old next year!)
I still use an iPod too. Hard to beat even 20 years later.
Honestly just in ~/Music and stuff I’d like to listen to on the go gets copied onto my phone.
Music folder on a network share. Navidrome and plex and jellyfin all have access to that library, then pick your poison for the client app. Plex is also DLNA enabled so my dumber AVR can access it too. I mostly use tempo app on android though. I’m a pinch, I can use navidromes web UI player to listen. The plex and jellyfin are mainly just a backup and overkill cause I can’t make up my mind.