So…yeah. Seems MS, in their endless wisdom has decided to rename their virtual desktop software, called before as “Remote Desktop” (and good luck trying to find issues with that that are not related to the old RDP tool MTSC.exe) to… “Windows App”. Perfect. Now everything will look like everything, and there’s no way to ever try to search for help for it. Next in line, I guess they can call it just “App”. I’m sure that will help everyone.
recently, I need to remote desktop from Mac to Windows, and I was searching around for products, and I came across a blog post recommending Windows App, and I had no fucking idea what it was. I thought it may have been a windows 8 app that is discontinued. The geniuses at microsoft SUCK at naming. Xbox, Xbox 360, xbox One (which was actually the third iteration, for some reason), xbox series x/s. Like wtf.
Windows 1, 2, 3, 95, 98, Me, 2000, XP, Vista, 7???, 8, 8.1, 10???, 11, 11 21H2, 11 22H2, …
AFAIK, Windows was discontinued after Vista. Windows 7 is actually the 7^th iteration of the Microsoft version of OS/2, which was rebranded as Windows NT with the release of the third version, and as Windows sine NT with the seventh version. Windows 9 had to be skipped because a sloppy version check for Windows 95/98 would have failed.
Kind of right. Windows ME was the final version of windows (you probably forgot about that one).
After that, XP, vista, windows 7, were all based on NT.
Ah, I got that wrong. Yes, Windows XP was the rebranded Windows NT 5. Thank you for the correction.
I have not forgotten Windows ME. It still haunts me in my dreams. Active Desktop crashing all the time was iconic af
When windows 9 comes out it will all work again.
Bold of you to think the next one will not be called Windows365
That already exists as their cloud virtual desktop service.
Edit: I could see them releasing a line of products and an ISO for Windows365Client that just makes the machine a thin client dedicated to rdping, or I guess Windows Apping now, to the Windows365 PC.
that’s a strange name for an operating system i’d’ve called it Chazzwozzers
hey andy!
What’s the good word?
I like the cut of your jib
You forgot Windows 3.1. That one was a pretty significant update
Oh, I can help remotely… I just need you to open Windows App.
Which app?
Windows App.
I get that, I’m running Windows, but which app?
Windows App.
Look, are you being smart? I’m in Windows, say I click on the Start button, which app do I click on?
Windows App.
Allright you, let’s say the app is already running…
Sure.
And I press CTRL-ALT-DEL and open Task Manager.
OK.
WHAT’S THE NAME OF THE APP I WOULD SEE IN TASK MANAGER??!???
Windows App.
I’M ASKING YOU, ‘WHAT’S THE NAME OF THE APP’???!??!??
I’m telling you, ‘Windows App.’
You did it so well, I started hearing it in their voices after a few lines. Well done.
What’s the original? Sounds as fun as ‘Front fell off’
Oh you’re in for a treat!
I would add… Slowly I Turned…
Next in line, I guess they can call it just “App”.
Saw this yesterday which is relevant
Is that Steve Jobs with a Butthead mouth? Beautiful.
I’m going to name a game I’m making “a game”
could it be that i already lost the game?
Impossible to pirate. Money printingachine
This started a few months ago across the board. It’s the dumbest realignment of their application stack ever … With that being said, I think it’s clear that the future of Microsoft is going to be them attempting to move the entire OS experience into the cloud no matter how misguided or unwarranted that approach may be.
Mainframe for the home user, with all files on their servers and, thus, controlled by them. That’s always been their goal, but the tech just didn’t exist until recently.
You’d think a company that runs a search engine would understand SEO…
They don’t want you searching it. They want you to pay them to fix it. With Ai presumably
AI still needs to be able to identify the thing you’re asking about. The AI still searches for things if it’s not already in its memory-it even tells you when it’s scanning different sources.
That all breaks with bad seo
This would probably matter more if every search for “windows 10 problem XY” wouldn’t turn up 100% garbage from their support forums anyway.
Hello my name is Ranjid, im a MSVP, but not associated with Microsoft. Have you tried reinstalling Windows or talking to your system administrator?
I saw a video recently they said the google search being bad is intentional. Because then you have to spend more time on google, thus seeing more ads.
That’s a bold move cotton. Let’s see how it plays out
Yes, but I feel that’s strategic to make us feel we need AI to do the work for us.
Except the AI needs that info searchable for itself. L
So, no. It’s just dumb.
But if you can’t google a solution to a problem there is no problem.
Anti-SEO pushes you to use AI to get help instead
AI still uses SEO or it’s database equivalent to figure out what you’re talking about about. Or to scan for new info - which they currently do
Ahh windows. How I don’t miss you.
I work in the window industry…like for buildings. I’m used to Microsoft constantly fucking up my queries
At this point i’m pretty sure most windows users have a degradation fetish they’re too ashamed to admit.
Microsoft seems lost, they’re so interested in constantly changing everything to steal more of your information instead of just maintaining the massive lead they have.
They can’t seem to just make something work, always manipulating the systems, and such none of it is very good, but when you try to be the best at everything you end up mediocre. Good thing they got a market lock when they did.
I finally had enough about a year ago and decided to bite the bullet and just install Linux. I honestly expected to run into all kinds of problems, particularly since I primarily use my desktop for gaming, but I’ve been very surprised how few problems I’ve actually had. It’s certainly not been completely problem free, but I wouldn’t say I’ve encountered more problems with Linux than I have in Windows. Different problems for sure, but not more, and honestly about equally difficult to fix.
We’re still feeling the damage done by the Microsoft monopoly from the '90s. Only historians will be able to say how far they sent us back.
Microsoft is a collection of fiefdoms, each led by a Lord (Product Manager) who drive projects which have two possible motivations: 1) promotion 2) bonus. Quality is not a factor and hasn’t been for decades. Cohesion? No. The lords sometimes fight amongst themselves. They serve the line go up. Everything is line go up. There is no bottom to the products. Line must go up
Capitalism’s innovative creativity on full display.
Ever since Ford renamed all car components to car components it has been a total bitch to change a tire…
Me: hello jiffy lube, I have a flat car components.
JL: Well bring it right in, we’ll fix that for you
Me: here’s the car with the flat car components.
JL: oh I see, you’ve been in an accident. Yeah we don’t fix that sort of flat car components. Go to Joe Shmow’s Auto repair.
JSAR: yah, I looked everywhere for a fix to flat components and found nothing worth trying. Cat videos yeah. But maybe if we hammer a few more things.
Me: but that’s the problem see this is supposed to be a dowel car component, but its flat. It used to be the thing a ma bob. But now its just another car components.
…the conversation would then drag on and included the economy, and politics.
Just keep using Remote Desktop Connection aka mstsc.exe?
It’s even recommended by Microsoft:
Although replacements have been released, as of the release of the Windows App, Remote Desktop Client is still recommended for use.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Remote_Desktop_Protocol_clients
That compatibility matrix, the windows app does not support connecting to Windows from Windows… That’s some amazing product planning there from Microsoft…
This is the same company that has Outlook, Outlook.com, Free email app called outlook, and New Outlook… And none of them are the same fucking thing.
I can’t fucking wait to switch to Linux!
Are they doing this on purpose? Why would they even do something like that?
Having worked on products that are renamed to something equally ambiguous, I’d say they are trying to make it more difficult to find because they are trying to redirect customer attention to other places, and are deliberately making it difficult to talk about or search for. Unfortunately this is a very successful strategy. It’s also very user hostile, and product engineer hostile. My heart goes out to any engineers that work in this product.
I don’t use Microsoft…or apple
