SYAC: The key sentence: "Bluesky, despite its innovative technology and good intentions, is built on the same venture-capital-backed foundation that has led so many promising platforms to eventually prioritize shareholders over users. " Mastodent wins!
I look forward to the documentary.
“Mastodon: Victory Through Technical Superiority”, available soon on Laserdisc and Betamax
I don’t think anybody who administers a mastodon server thinks it’s superior technology.
What mastodon isn’t is funded by fashy techbro asswipe VCs who will turn it into a torment nexus over time, just like X and Meta and Alphabet.
So Mastodon will continue to attract a small minority of people who don’t feel safe or wanted on a fashbro site. And that’s fine. I want to talk to people who think I’m human, not a bunch of Andrew Tate gargling fuck heads.
Feeling like the mastodon crowd are preaching on soap boxes here. Not a bad product but will it attract the general public, probably not .
When they are out of sinking ships to scurry to.
People prefer to drown than pick option which is not corporate bullshit. Bluesky won because it’s centralized, and people don’t have to decide over instance.
Why are you on Lemmy? Or, why do you think the decentralised model works here, but not on mastodon?
Or is it only working because there is no third party VC-backed reddit clone?
Lemmy is barely a thing. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.
People do prefer centralized platforms with shiny front-faces and easy-to-navigate corporate bullshit. The reason why that stuff is so successful is because it works.
People fled to Bluesky because advertisers moved to Bluesky.
I don’t think anyone is claiming technical superiority. And certainly not financial superiority.
But maybe some kind of resilience to the forces of destruction plaguing commercial social media.
But maybe some kind of resilience to the forces of destruction plaguing commercial social media.
This isn’t going to be the effective slogan that turns the masses who are finally just barely starting to fill Bluesky.
As soon as any platform sees a measure of success, it becomes a product and thus vulnerable. If we want social media that isn’t just a massive propaganda and advertising machine, I feel like we need to change something else.
Like physically storming corporate offices and returning the means of production to the people?
Maybe.
The mastodon is not a platform though, it’s a protocol/standard and the software to run it. Individual mastodon services/platforms will come and go. I think if they become too much of a product (and enshittify), then people will leave, because they can without much pain.
preaching to the choir
Bluesky is ALREADY cracking down on accounts for political reason, that’s all one needs to know to figure out they need at least to have backup accounts on Mastodon or Friendica:
https://www.turkishminute.com/2025/04/17/bluesky-restrict-access-72-account-turk-amid-government-pressure/All true. And yet sadly until mastodon or better say another fediverse instance do have algorithms and a brain dead stupid onboarding and hyper cool phone apps, that will not do for 99% of the people.
There will always be two types of users: people looking to connect and people looking to be entertained. Fedi is better at the former and commercial better at the latter.
I was told something like this about an article I was pointing out wasn’t on page 1 of google, but was on virtually all other engines. “Unless it’s page 1 of google nobody cares”
And all I can say is “who cares? those aren’t the people it’s for”
Mastodon could be cool.
But lemmy is the killer app for activity pub
Mastodon is already bigger than Lemmy. Just as Twitter was always bigger than Reddit. Long form text is always less popular. Pictures and videos are more popular than short form text, that’s why Instagram is bigger than X. We’ll see how Pixelfed grows in the coming years.
I don’t use these so maybe I’m missing something, but why would you have to choose? Bluesky is centralized but it seems like its design is committed enough to open technology that it would take them a long time to walk it back, and in the meantime there shouldn’t be barriers to using unified clients that put content from both in the same interface, and possibly override any opinionated content algorithm from the company (not sure if that’s feasible or not).
