• Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Declining population, my ass. There were less than 4.5 billion people on the planet when I was born. That fash-hole is only worried that white people will represent a minority of the future population. Nothing more.

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      3 months ago

      Decline population is an actual thing…? Not defending this asshole or anything but your statement is seemingly based off of a lack of information.

      Birth rates in many developed countries are incredibly low well below maintenance levels. Meaning that aside from immigration the population in most developed countries is actually going down quite rapidly.

      Which given the way our societies and financial systems are structured generally means some form of disaster for those countries if such decline occurs.

      There’s even a pretty good recent video talking about what this looks like in South Korea

      Blue indicates below replacement levels:

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        3 months ago

        Still one billion in 1804
        two billion in 1927
        three billion in 1960
        four billion in 1974
        five billion in 1987
        six billion in 1999
        seven billion in 2011
        eight billion in 2022

        Already too many for my taste.
        And no to all, don’t react with irrelevant “there’s enough food for…” or Malthusian bla bla

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          3 months ago

          And no to all, don’t react with irrelevant “there’s enough food for…” or Malthusian bla bla

          So, don’t bother you with the downside of what’s actually going to happen? What’s in the middle of happening? You’re just going to do a little cherry-picking, then tell us don’t bother you with facts?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBudghsdByQ

          You can already see it in real time by looking at the demographics in South Korea and Japan. The only reason the numbers are offset is that a few countries are still net positive enough to offset them.

          Our great-grandkids are in for one hell of a ride. If we let it drop enough, they’ll be in forced breeding situations.

          • Bloomcole@lemm.ee
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            3 months ago

            A world with a lot less people sounds like a dream TBH.
            No overcrowded cities, no chasing animals of their land or destroying it for resources, etc…

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                3 months ago

                If you can get even low quality robots that can provide some amount of elder care, even if it’s just reminding them to take prescriptions and helping them walk, then you can drastically reduce the economic problems. there will be massive shortages of basic CNA and nursing home care workers.

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                  3 months ago

                  Caring for the elderly is unfortunately a very small piece of the pie. A small number of CNA can handle a pretty decent number of elderly, in a facility.

                  Of course, we (corporate) stretch those CNA as thin as possible.

                  Automation in every industry that we’re so worried about being our undoing will soften the blow.

                  It’s possible that nanny bots could eventually help ease daycare costs.

                  Problematically anytime somebody creates something that reduces financial cost for someone else, They usually end up charging them significant amounts for it. Those inexpensive elderly care robots will end up being subscriptions and have planned obsolescence. Everybody’s got to get a piece of that pie.

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                    3 months ago

                    Do you have numbers for that? Because staffing is already very short and the ratio of workers to people needing care will get much higher. And a lot of them will want to stay in their home, which needs a much higher amount of care than in a centralized facility.