• kitnaht@lemmy.world
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    Well that’s retarded. If some idiot slams on their gas and flips their car 5x because they did something stupid, I’m not gonna say “wow, that person’s a developmentally disabled!”… I’m gonna say they’re a retard.

    Retard isn’t used any more to talk about people with developmental problems. It’s meant to talk about people who do exceptionally idiotic things like the example above.

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        3 months ago

        I don’t know about you, but calling someone less intelligent IS an insult. Doesn’t matter what you name it.

        That’s the point of insults you know.

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            Yeah. Retards are retards. People with downs syndrome are people with downs syndrome, glad we agree.

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                It has nothing to do with empathy. This is upper-class college white girl shit, where people get offended on behalf of a class they don’t belong to and which the people who they are offended on behalf of don’t really give a shit.

                You pretend to be offended so you can signal to others that you are virtuous.

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                    If everyone had to be considerate of every persons views, nobody would write anything. Nobody would be allowed to have opinions.

                    The world isn’t all sunshine and flowers, buttercup. I’ll continue to be imperfect, and use the words to describe what I want. If you want to get your blood pressure up, and get huffy about it, that’s your prerogative.

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                    I get it. Generally people don’t want to offend someone without due cause. And so we traipse around each other’s idiosyncrasies. For the most part that is fine.

                    The problem comes from making a policy of it. People will say what they will say. Does that cause reputational harm if they say certain words? Sure. No one can stop you from changing how you feel about someone based upon their actions. But you can’t stop them from saying it.

                    Let’s go straight to the source. Let’s talk about the N word. If you see someone in public use that word perjoratively - then you will probably consider them to be a bad person. You may even tell other people “That person said the N word and they are bad because of it.” And that would be perfectly fine.

                    But what you can’t do is tell them not to say it. Because it is their freedom to be a piece of shit and to say awful things and to demean and hurt others with their words. So if Joe Rogan wants to say stupid shit, let him. We all know he’s an idiot.

                    Oh yeah… idiot used to have a clinical meaning too, you know. But I guess according to you I can’t say that either.

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          Yes.

          That one stopped being used as a medical designation prior to people getting their panties in a twist about using medical designations as insults.

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        This is why I prefer “willful ignoramus” when I want to insult a person like Rogan. These people aren’t just stupid, they’re choosing to be ignorant.

        The real problem is the stigma attached (throughout modern history) to people with intellectual disabilities. Every new term eventually became a slur, because the same bigots who use slurs are also bullies.

        “Intellectual disabilities” has a slim chance of avoiding this because it’s too long to say and too hard to spell.

        Btw, “lame” and “blind” are examples of how it’s similar for all kinds of disabilities.