TL;DR To make messaging on Reddit faster and more reliable, we’re replacing Private Messages (PMs) with Reddit Chat and inbox notifications. This transition is necessary to maintain and improve Reddit’s messaging infrastructure. We aim to make these changes with minimal disruption while improving the user experience.
Timeline: Starting at the end of March, we’ll roll out these changes in phases over the next three months to ensure everything goes smoothly
Genuinely can’t remember the last time Reddit had a good update.
Fuuuuck chat. I hated it when they debuted it, I hate it now. Fortunately I don’t have to deal with that shit cause I’m over here now.
its because they cant datamine pm/dm, a chat is basically fair game to them.
You guys are still logging into reddit?
Yes, to promote Lemmy
And you haven’t been banned yet?
No, you just need to choose where you talk about it
/r/RedditAlternatives is fine
hi its me a r/redditalternatives mod
Do you think you could maybe update the pinned table? It’s been there for a while
Probably not, but I’ll poke the head mods eventually about it
I personally disabled voting. Can’t get banned for upvoting “violence” if I don’t upvote anything in the first place.
No one gets banned from Reddit for promoting Lemmy, it’s just some subreddits (like /r/technology) which are overzealous. But not the site as a whole.
i got temp banned for reporting too much, or something the sub does not like. ever since it got astroturfed by trump news, thier filters/mods are on high alert.
Its hard not to, that place has a fucking monopoly in internet communities!
Maybe it was at oeast partially a blessing I got banned…
Post links to Lemmy to counter it.
Stop lurking here and post links into communities. Be the change you want to see! If you build it, more will come!
Also, and probably most important, you don’t need 10 million people in a community to have quality content.
Having so many also means having a huge amount of toxic people.
I wouldn’t say a monopoly, but my counterpoint is pointing to how discord swallowed up all the BBS forums that reddit hadn’t. So it’s not like that’s much better.
My latest horror (slight exaggeration) was finding pretty much the entire modding scene for Balatro is contained to discord
wtf? If I wanna download mods for a game I have to prowl through a discord “forum”? It’s awful, what’s wrong with nexus or steam workshop
Small world, I’m also on the balatro/other games modding discord boat, and it is a rough ocean out here. The perennial argument is that users don’t know how to use an old school forum, nobody wants to moderate it, nobody wants to pay for the infrastructure.
All those fall flat to me. Nobody even bothers to use discord’s “forums” or pinned messages for their bug reports/troubleshooting, no they just post straight to general, “this doesnt work can someone help” with no details whatsoever. Not like it would be any better or worse on a forum. It’s also not like BBS forums don’t have moderation tools, it’s not some lost art from an ancient civilization. As for paying for it… the whole discord server is propped up by nitro users. Like come on. Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
It really doesn’t if you’re willing to look past the first five (paid for) results on Google…
I jist got my 5th account perma banned. Moved to lemmy after my last 7 day ban, never looking back now. They are starting to ban just for swearing.
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Sync for Reddit does not have a chat function, so I won’t be using DMs… Not that I even care for it, I guess my “chat request” feed will be bigger for the next time I check on the desktop website (with Ublock Origin ofc) 😅
It was always a mystery that they maintained two features with basically the same function in parallel for so long. Hopefully they made it better than the last time I gave it a try, because otherwise, oof.
when it was first introduced we were getting regular chat request, than it turn into spammers, and hten people stopped using it altogether.
enshittification, its how youtube went, they removed DM/PM and encourage community chats, and video comments, because they cant mine or sell data easily on PMs.
Custom clients don’t have chat. Oh well. I basically never used DMs anyways so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Is this the year they completely disable old.reddit, I wonder?
Why & When Is This Happening?
To make Reddit faster, simpler, and easier to use, we needed to unify our messaging platforms. This consolidation helps us focus on improving one system instead of maintaining multiple. Plus, Reddit Chat’s infrastructure is built for the future, unlike the PM system which is about as old as Reddit itself.
We’re sharing this change early because we want your feedback! We’ve spent months talking to mods, developers, and users to ensure this migration works for everyone (shoutout to u/RemindMeBot fans). But there might be scenarios we’ve missed, and we need your input to address them. You can share feedback directly with the team working on this project in the comments below.
My sides went into orbit. They aren’t even trying to come up with believable lies any more, right?
- If the concern was to make Reddit “faster, simpler, and easier to use”, they’d ditch chat and keep DMs
- “muh futchure” fallacy (appeal to novelty)
- pretending that they want/care for user feedback
…I think that the reason is twofold: 1) it’s easier to plug advertisement into the new chat system, and 2) chat only works in new.reddit so they can use it as an excuse to deprecate yet another old.reddit system.
pratically what youtube did, got rid of thier DM/pm and forced everyone to comment on videos, so it can be astroturfed and artificially boosts engagement.
Yup, pretty much.
And, as usual, advertisers are to be blamed: they’re the ones interested on “engagement”, and indirectly siccing platforms to artificially inflate their engagement numbers.
They aren’t even trying to come up with believable lies any more, right?
Yeah I’m wondering that too.
I looked at the thread on Reddit and I can’t find one single user who says this is a good idea.
PR if it was honest:
Why & When Is This Happening?
To better monetize your attention and data, we’ve decided to streamline all communication into a single, ad-optimized, engagement-maximized system. Maintaining multiple messaging systems was cutting into our profit margins, so we’re sunsetting the old one — which, let’s be honest, wasn’t generating nearly enough revenue anyway.
Reddit Chat is engineered for the future (read: future monetization opportunities), unlike PMs, which were quaint relics from a time when this site wasn’t a corporate data-mining operation.
We’re announcing this change now so we can say we “listened” when it inevitably breaks the way you use Reddit. We’ve talked to a hand-picked selection of mods and power users (mostly the ones who didn’t complain too much), but there’s still time for you to provide feedback we can pretend to consider. Drop your thoughts in the comments below, where they’ll be skimmed for marketing insights.
the 2nd part is exactly it, they cant really datamine your PMs, and the AIs cant scrape the messaging.
If you’re on old reddit you don’t even see notifications for chat
im surprised they keep the legacy frontend around for this long. im sure its a matter of time before they kill it.
they probably know the legacy users/og users like us would bounce from reddit the moment they remove it? they havnt figure a way to introduce the shittier new UI in such a way that people will stay?
Another set of features is being taken away. The dismantling of old reddit continues.
