And I’m being serious. I feel like there might be an argument there, I just don’t understand it. Can someone please “steelman” that argument for me?

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    You are citing one subject here, Palestine. Yes, maybe under Harris nothing would have been different in regards to this. But it is pretty obvious, that under the orange shitstain’s regime, many people all over the world will suffer a lot. The point in participating in this election was to prevent that. You didn’t vote the special representativefor Palestine or some shit, but the president of the most influencial country in the world. Your actions have consequences. All Americans who voted for Trump or did not participate fucked not only themselves, but also so many millions of other people over, so I really thing, they should go fuck themselves.

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      And your playing whataboutisms. Those other issues are directly related to gaza.

      The military industrial complex loves israel/Palestine conflicts makes them oodles of money. Hence both parties support israel and killing Palestinians.

      The capital class loves suppressing wages and benefits. Hence no pro labor policies from the dems/reps.

      The MIC loves the Ukraine war, see israel above.

      Capital loves monopolies, less competition for workers, easier to raise prices, etc. again reason behind no labor policies.

      LGBT? Same deal. Corporate doesnt care, hence policies generally go through.

      The only difference between dems and repubs is one are religious fanatics. People in currently blue states are safe from them, those who are not, are not.

      All the issues you think just got fucked are going to be mostly unchanged regardless whom won this election. Shitty states going to get shittier. All the lesser evil people will be laser focused on trump now and as a result the representatives will have to do real work.

      The genocide and everything else are one and the same. One is just easier to articulate to people who have some morals, though some will continue the lesser evil nonsense.

      In the meantime find the real progressives in your area and encourage them to run

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        The *only* difference between dems and repubs is one are religious fanatics. People in currently blue states are safe from them, those who are not, are not.

        This is definitely something serious that we shouldn’t downplay. I’m of the belief (in agreement with you) that the parties are mostly the same, and the dems just talk a whole lot of talk on domestic stuff and then do worse than nothing. But the christofascists backing trump are far more terrifying than trump himself and they’re not going anywhere, they vastly predate his political career. But in the past they were a weird loud minority, they still are but they’re not such a small minority anymore and THAT is fucking terrifying.