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Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

Democracy in decline worldwide, new report says

www.politico.eu

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Democracy in decline worldwide, new report says

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Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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Orbán, Trump and Erdoğan contribute to continuing downturn around the globe.
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    Democracy is the worst form of governance, apart from all others

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      It’s only the morning where I am, but I think I’ve read the dumbest thing I’m going to read all day.

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        It’s a Churchill quote. https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotes/the-worst-form-of-government/?ssp=1&setlang=pt-PT&safesearch=moderate

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          Churchill was a racist idiot and that’s still a dumb quote.

          Democracy is a plane with 20 people on it. Nine vote not to crash it and eleven vote to fly it into a mountain, and that means everyone dies because democracy

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            So instead you choose authoritarianism: 20 people on a plan and one of them shoots the pilot, takes over, and crashes it. Everyone dies.

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              Yeah, the problems with democracy are rarely solved by less democracy. It just turns into “Instead of many idiots voting to do something stupid, one idiot votes to do something stupid.”

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              Think bigger. Fly the plane in circles, and demand the people give you whatever you want to occasionally land it and bring some supplies onboard.

              Just don’t die of old age.

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              Love how you think that not only are there only two options, but that democracy isn’t also authoritarian. It’s just mob rule instead of an individual.

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                That’s… precisely why the original quote said “democracy is the worst form of government”. It has fundamental flaws. But it’s still the better than everything else.

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                Why don’t you enlighten us on the other options then? I’d love to hear it.

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            Churchill’s point is that stupid things can still happen in democracies, but no one has come up with a better alternative. What would you suggest as the better alternative? If you don’t have one, then you just helped prove Churchill’s point!

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              Every human knows and has used a superior system from the time they first started playing with other people: Consensus.

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                …which is basically what democracy is, but systemitized such that it can be applied at scale.

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                  If we had a consensus based government I wouldn’t have a fascist as a representative

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                    There are more people than just you in your district

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                deleted by creator

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                  Your shoe has a pretty good knowledge of anarchism. You could learn a thing or two from it

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                So… A form of democracy?

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                  Democracy is majority rule, and fuck whatever the minority wants.

                  Consensus is we don’t do anything unless we all agree.

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                    Then you don’t do anything. Ok got it, 👍🏾

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                    So nothing gets done then.

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                …what do you think democracy is?

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                Are you…high???

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                  Yes but also yes

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            It’s more like,

            • 2 hijackers vote to crash
            • 1 votes with the hijackers because they share a hometown
            • 2 vote no
            • another 2 vote strong no
            • the other 12 don’t participate because they don’t want to get too political (we have 40% voter turnout where I live)

            and I’ve been through enough elections to see how we are all heading to a crash, every time.

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            But if we made you running everything it would be perfect.

            That’s the thing with anti-democracy sentiment the people who advocate for it always assume they, or someone who agrees with them on everything, is going to run things. No one imagines themselves in a slave society being a slave.

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            No, nine vote to crash it, seven vote to go left and four vote to go right.

            Crashing it is! Thanks, first past the post voting system.

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          Doesn’t make him right.

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            Churchill is saying that democracy is the best form of government in the quote. He is just saying it in a funny way.

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              I think that person gets it. Just that they are probably some tankie.

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            Read the quote again but slowly this time.

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            Go back to school dude, and this time stay awake during the lecture.

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              I did not learn that in any of my schooling lol

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                I did not learn anything in any of my schooling lol

                FTFY

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                  Damn, you guys are pretentious as hell in this thread lmao

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            take a break

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            It’s ok. It requires a reading and comprehension level above 5th Grade so it can be difficult for some to understand subtle nuances and phrases such as “apart from” and “the”.

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            Expand your mind.

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        Next time try not sleeping through your history class champ? That’s a famous historic Churchill quote.

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        Not unless you re-read your comment after you finally finish waking up

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        I seriously doubt it

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