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So our prisons are so overfilled that we’re letting some people out early, but we have space for this?
Well obviously… What’s more important? The well being of the population, or the ability of the ruling class to suppress any resistance? Gotta keep those oil barons happy!
Yes. Make space for these turds!
“They annoy me, so they should be locked up!”
Clown. People like you are why this country is barreling into authoritarianism. Even under Labour.
It’s not about my personal annoyance. It’s about breaking the law. There are laws in a democracy too, you know that right? Laws don’t make a democracy authoritarian either. These are just stupid uneducated statements.
They have just as much freedom to protest as everyone else has. Everyone is the same under the law. If they think they can break the law without punishment, they are simply wrong and stupid.
Laws don’t make a democracy authoritarian either
How do you think former democracies turn, like the Weimar Republic turned into Nazi Germany?
It started with legislation.
Also, this country already has deeply authoritarian aspects, such as GCHQs immunity to the public and their tapping of the internet backbone and storage of the data with no accountability. If that’s not authoritarian, I don’t know what is.
Also, remember that NotMyKing protestors in London (ORGANISED PROTEST) were arrested en-masse for NO reason, only to be released when the event was over. But yeah, we’re “not authoritarian”.
They have just as much freedom to protest as everyone else has
Little and declining every day? What, are you only okay with it if they’re standing with signs in a corner where they can be conveniently ignored?
If they think they can break the law without punishment, they are simply wrong and stupid.
Oh yeah, I forgot, only lobbying fossil fuel companies get that privilege. Destroy the environment and become immune from repercussions. Score!
The law is being changed to slowly ban effective protest, does that mean it’s okay to crush protest? No! To say it is just because the laws were passed in a democracy (by either stupid or malicious politicians) doesn’t make it just, or any less authoritarian.
Also consider that the FPTP election system is deeply undemocratic to begin with, where a party with about 30% of votes can gain a majority despite the majority actually voting against them.
I’ve seen people caught in paedophile hunter sting operations get less prison time than Just Stop Oil did.
4-5 years in prison each for discussing a highway protest (that never happened) on a Zoom call…
“The sentences handed to the five Just Stop Oil campaigners are utterly disproportionate,” environmentalist and author George Monbiot wrote on social media. “Four and five years in prison for peaceful protest? This is what you might expect in Russia or Egypt, not in a supposed democracy.”
due to a four-day direct action protest on the M25 that Just Stop Oil ultimately held in November 2022.
They aren’t being penalized for the content of their speech. If they wanted to run around with signs that argued their point, nobody would have blinked an eye. They’re being penalized for dicking up British transport.
You can say what you want; that’s your political speech. You cannot try and disrupt the country if it isn’t doing what you want.
Russia’s going to go after you for criticizing the war. They have a problem with the political message. What you’re getting in trouble for here is for the disruption, not the message’s content.
Your take is however literally madness. It would be like you protesting on here that somone trying to get people medicine to survive if they raced across town disrupting traffic and you supported them being jailed.
I hope they can keep it up. The stupid attached to people not understating the impacts of climate change is appalling and will collapse civilisation. That’s literally what XR, JSO etal want to try and do, prevent the collapse of civilisation and raise awareness of that so we do something. And people be like “my Uber Eats driver delivered me a cold buger, jail those protestors for life!!!?”
I get you’re not brave enough to do this yourself but you’d think you’d at least support those who are!
This isn’t anarchy mate. There are laws in a democracy too. You’re making no sense.
Laws that the rich don’t have to play by, only the common folk. So why keep playing?
If the rich are stupid enough to block highways they will get the same punishment.
What conspiracies are you talking about? Do you have any specific sources where certain people have higher privilages in the judiciary system of the UK? You cannot make strong claims like that without a source of a lawesuit.
“In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread.”
I didn’t mean direct examples of when the rich were blocking roads, I meant more like why can major corporations continually polite the environment either though dumping illegally or spills and never see jail time.
The rules aren’t the same.
Because they don’t violate laws doing that. It’s very simple actually.
You’re suprised that people that violate laws get punished. And equally you’re suprised that people that don’t violate the law don’t get punished. Huh?
That’s because they’re not playing by the same laws. Good job, we came full circle
